Ron maybe we need to have a M & M session like doctors do after they lose a patient where all info is on the table and no blame is leveled and all is confidential to those in the session. Being able to tell all the details so that operators are aware of what happened and what can be done to have better results. You can do everything right, legal, moral, what ever and still be DEAD. We have to be able to do the job and come home at night, what ever it takes. Sometimes that means saying no to the job, doing it later, or having extra people on hand to complete it safely! Most and I mean most law enforcement is on our side and do what we ask within reason, sometimes they just can't do it at a moments notice. We need to work WITH them and be understanding of the time restraints, and other issues they have as well. Our state troopers are very thin in our state sometimes having only three troopers in a 5 or 6 county area. Sheriff and local police do have more resources at times and are always a great help. Use them when needed!!