Orcas Tow

Underhydrated then overheated.

Yeah, No, my hourly rate has always been calculated of the weight of the casualty not what I bring to do the job:)

Had a call for a brand new custom 15,000lb fifth wheel that was delivered yesterday, the delivery driver could not make the 15% + driveway so he left it in place 1/2 way up the driveway. Luckily there was a back way in to the property, Nick & I showed up with our 2018 F450 4X4 with a Chevron 408TA & our 2001 F550 4x4 with the Chevron 408 & home made fifth wheel hitch, hook up the 550 & hooked the 450 the the front tow hooks on the 550 & attempted to drive them up together but were unsuccessful, 2 sharp steep turns on loose gravel were just too little traction, too steep of hill & too much weight for both 4x4's. We ended up winching multiple times with the 450 using trees as dead men when available. 2.75 hours & all good at the pad with a view. $500 tip to boot:)

I got a call for a flatbed C30 in a ditch with roofing material in it, I said what's the weight, he said not much bring the small truck . Nick & I brought the 2001 F550 with a Chevron 408 & found a fully (over) loaded C60 with asphalt roofing backed in the ditch, guess they had difficulty getting it up the hill & backed into the ditch, lucky it didn't roll as it had a hard twist/lean. Guessing at 25,000lbs, good thing we have Holmes trees in the area, scotch blocks chained to rear D rings, drivers winch line low to the tree then a 3 part to the drivers side frame rail for a low pull, passenger side winch line 2 part high from the boom to the passenger side frame rail for an upward pull. Engaged the winches & she came right out.

Im guessing this is a pre slide out dated trailer, it was a permanent addition.

Recovery was definetly worth more than the trailer. I was called in the evening for travel trailer over embankment on a steep narrow freshly installed dirt road, had come unhooked from tow vehicle & came to rest on a tree, it was safely off roadway so we decoded to recover in daylight. Arrived on scene with 2 light duties, a 2001 F550 4x4 with a Chevron 408 & a 2018 F450 4x4 with a Chevron 408TA. The 550 was placed in front, scotch blocks chained to tailboard with 1 line from each winch going to snatch blocks/grade 80 recovery chains around each frame rail at front of trailer then each line was terminated at large trees on opposing sides of the 550 for steer ability of the trailer as we winched. The 450 was backed up to the drivers side of trailers as we were concerned of it potentially rolling over & also to put a side/forward pull to keep it from sliding sideways during the forward winch. The 450 drivers side line went to snatch block/grade 80 5/16" recovery chain/frame at drivers rear of trailer & terminated at tailboard D ring of 450, passenger side line went opposite direction up hill to snatch block/grade 80 5/16" recovery chain/tree then terminated at drivers side of trailer spring frame mount, with the 450 rigged this way we could keep the 450 from dragging sideways by keeping even tension on both winches. Figuring the trailer heavy at 10,000lbs it was way over rigged with 7 lines to the load but the many lines were more for control than weight. All went as planned, winched it up to the 550, slipped my ball in the tongue, safety chained & towed to its final destination. 2 hrs from start to finish.

Probably the earliest vehicle I have towed in 30+ years.

Nice rigging, love the trees, sometimes there is a casualty though as there's no WLL on those darn things...

I agree fully, I use WreckMaster K Straps through or around the tires in the WreckMaster fashion or secure to lower control arms as the factory screw eyes are not designed for any side load.

This recovery is a few years old, I had time to actually take some pic's. We had a weeks worth of snow & high winds, this Suburban was a paramedics personal vehicle that he was using for aid calls as the ambulances were not able to get up many driveways. It rolled 4 times & ended up 75' off the narrow road, the worst injury was a broken arm of the 3 occupants. Thank god for all the trees around here, there always seems to be one in just the right place for an anchor or change of direction, fun stuff

Topic Originally Created on Tow411 in November of 2008: I got a call tow call for a new to the current owner boat on a trailer where the wheel bearing had failed & the axle hit the roadway tearing the U bolts loose & shifting the axle. Jacked up the damaged axle & put my ball joint block underneath (thanks tow411 for that) Slid the bed under until it was close to the axle, the long 2x8 was already there so I made use of it. All loaded up & ready to go, 2 straps in the front & cross chained in the rear with binders, a strap over the top because the rear of the boat was not secured to the trailer in any way. Unknown Member Said: That trailer is way too little for that boat!, good job on the tow, i really like your tailboard block. mooresbp said: I like that block also!! Nice work! svdkid82 said: thats a sharp IH you've got there! wm010829 said: Nice job! Where did you get the tailboard block ? Bed is a dual-tech I think. Jeff-Twilight Orcas Tow said: Thanks all, kinda fun to get something a little different, lots more work than a standard tow though. It's a 21' steel Dual tech bed & the tailboard block is custom, heres the link if you want to build one, its come in handy quite a few times already in the short time I have had it, the nice thing is you can winch with it even if you have one car secured on the deck, just run the wire rope underneath the car to the block. http://tow411.yuku.com/topic/47293 allenstowing said: uzek, that is one sweet block you made!!! oh and nice job Energizer Bear: Uzek, Your tailboard block is sweet and were very interested in making one for each of the rollbacks. Thanks for posting your block in action, Vinny8662 said: You do have a nice truck and you did a great job recovering the boat. I am not knocking the way you loaded the boat but I have hauled quite a few large boats such as this one and always load them rear first. Because of the weight of the motor etc. it gives better weight distribution. Again I'm not knocking the way you did it, just offering another way. Orcas Tow said: I hear you & thought about loading it backwards, the truck rode fine but any bigger boat I think I would take your advise, more difficult to drag a broke axle all the way up & down the bed (backwards) than just a couple feet up. Thanks. ricktowingvt said: great job it fun to tow something different, make u think.

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Good job rigging a difficult access situation.

Received a call at 9 pm to bring the big truck for an excavator in a pond. I requested we do it in the light. The customer asked if we could do it tonight as it was submerged, he said he would do the dirty work:) I figured it was worth a look.I have not yet put the 750 to any winching load & thought about bringing the 14 Ton also but figured Id see if what the old timers say about the old Holmes 750's is true. I showed on scene to find an18,000lb excavator in the middle of a pond with the arm/bucket fully extended. The operator was working on the edge of a clay bank reaching out across the pond to grab a fallen tree & the excavator slid down the bank to the middle of the pond. I backed the old girl into position, lowered the hydraulic spades & started to pull cable, 2 2 part lines with 1/2" grade 80 chain at the excavator with the hooks terminating at the wrecker boom fairleads. The excavator owner & his helper did all the swimming/rigging underwater to the carriage. I engaged the winches & man she drug that excavator plowing sideways through the clay all the way up to dry land without as much as an inch of wrecker movement or any indication of strain from the truck. Definitely some noise from the cables as they were wrapping on the winch drums but very impressed with the ability of this truck. I rotated the excavator around once on dry land, broke down the rigging & was back at my office within 2 hours of getting in the truck, didn't even get wet. Mooresbp said: Sweet Roach901 said: OH NO !! The next post was the listing for the 14 ton. Looks like the 750 pushed the 14 ton out of the nest. Builder2 said: Congrats, first winch out with a new rig can be a learning curve. Orcas Tow said: Its for the love of Tow Trucks that I even own anything bigger than an 8 Ton. I bought the 750 as a "Collector Toy" & have found it is very capable to do anything towing related I ask of it for business also. My calls that require anything over an 8 Ton wrecker are few & far between so I hate to see the 14 Ton sit, guaranteed the nicest 2001 International for its age, very well kept but it needs to go to someone who can use it on a regular basis. MACk6X6 said: As you have just found - seeing is believing. Say what you want but dollar vs bang you just can't beat the old Holmes Wreckers for straight-line bull winching. Most will overwork the chassis they are mounted to - thanks for posting, Steve. truckrepair said: Dad taught my brother and I on the 750's we had. They are terribly underrated for their capabilities. We were once called to move a 276,000 transformer for TVA. We used two 750's and got the job done! Besides, they are the original rotators! Trex said: Great! i love 750 winching machines keep us posted!! phxpksdave said: Uzek; Welcome to the 750 Believers club. As you`re quickly finding out there`s a reason so many are still old school believers. JacksonAutoandWrecker said: the cable s and booms will talk to ya as you heard was training an operator on a rolled loadedpacker he heard cables start talking and quit winching lol thanks for posting love the old wreckers!!!!! tntower said: Nice to see some old iron still working. good job. kcservak said: Do you have pics of this truck in the daylight. Keith. Orcas Tow said: Heres a couple pictures when I brought it home. kcservak said: Uzec That truck is awsome wise you the best of luck with it and please keep posting pics of it working because that is what it is made for. Keith. Orcas Tow said: Thank you Sir.

I have these in my trucks & they are nice & bright, I tied them into the parking lights as they don't draw much amperage. https://zips.com/parts-detail/buyers-led-strip-lights-bp-562lightstrip

I hard wired mine in my overhead light bar, dry & high up for a good un obstructed signal.

B/A Products 17-2N 11" Winch Roller Guide, some trimming & I have a winch that spools nicely now. I simply welded the passenger side roller to the guide frame & trimmed the bottom corner of the roller to clear the winch hydraulic drive motor. I have not & will not load the winch off the side so the non turning roller is a non issue, simply a guide.

I have loaded a couple dozen or so myself & found that with steel core wire it will like you say will noisily grind to the outside of the drum if under tension but travels loosely from the end of the drum for about 2" due to the guides side roller mounted far inside the drum not allowing the rope to lay naturally. My old Chevron wound beautifully with the same wire rope with an 11" wide guide. Just disappointed with the "new & improved" version.

It has a top roller, just not visible in the angle of the picture.

Thank you, Im going to see if I can retrofit the 11" roller guide on & will report back:)

The tensioner is fine, its the roller guide thats 3 1/2" narrower than the winch drum. If you look in the picture in my original post you'll see that the inside of the side rollers is way narrower than the winch drum.

George, Just to confirm your roller guide is 3 1/2" narrower than your winch drum? Mine has the plate tensioner on the backside also.

I recently purchased a 2015 Century LCG with a bottom feed Ramsey winch, the wire rope winds poorly on the outside edges of the winch because the winch drum measures 11" & the guide inside diameter measures 8.5 inches. I ordered a B/A 11" winch guide then found out the hydraulic pump is in the way of putting a wider winch guide on. Any thoughts other than converting to a top feed? Thanks.

I did take the aluminum guards off right at the pivot as they were chaffing the hoses right off the bat, also took the aluminum covers off the outside forward edge of the crossbar so small gravel can get out, pressure wash now & then the guts of the crossbar.

Wow, my hoses lasted about 70,000 miles/9 years