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  1. This Brockway was Listed for sale by Underdog on Tow411 in June of 2010: Does anyone know where it is today? 1959 Brockway. Gas engine, runs well. - 5-Speed Transmission with 2-Speed Rear. Holmes 525 Boom - Air Brakes. - Body in good shape, surface rust only. Was Priced at $5,000 in 2010. silverhawk said: That is the same model Holmes I started with in 1964, only my truck was a E40 Studebaker! Yea, I said Studebaker. 1959 with a 289 V-8, 4 speed with a 2 speed rear end. 900x20 tires, but hydraulic brakes. I still remember the welder who put it all together at the factory signed his name on the right rear inner wheel well of the wrecker body. "Buck" signed his work. Some of the things we did with it back then I would want to talk about today.
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    1977 Brockway

    This Brockway was Listed for sale by Underdog on Tow411 in 2009: Where is it today? 1977 Brockway Model K761T - 8V71 Detroit Engine, 13 Speed Roadranger Trans. 54,761 Miles, Totally Original, No Rust. In Excellent Mechanical Condition. Fentron Model F-30 - Fully Hydraulic 30 Ton - Hydraulically extendable Booms. Hate to sell it, but need the room for other projects. Winter's coming Priced at $17,000. vulcanuk said: nice looking truck and its in my colours, dollar exchange rate makes it to expensive for me here, hope you find good home for her. Larry Lange said: I Hope it ends up somewhere nice! FMS Mike said: I love this truck so much! underdog said: it went to a collector in Mass. It found another good home. Stay Safe, Rich. Larry Lange said: Yes I know, I happened to be driving by your place the night it before it was being delivered. I saw someone was working n it......pulling an axle out...lol. I stopped and talked with your mechanic for a bit, i think his name was Kevin? Nice guy. take care! Teds72 said: who in mass maybe ill get to see this beautiful truck in person
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    Jony's Wrecked Truck

    Topic Originally Created on Tow411 by underdog in 2008: This ford was working a recovery at night with Jony's Brockway. My Uncle Bob Foy was in the cab holding his foot on the brakes, when another truck crashed into the old Ford. He walked away without a scratch. They finished the recovery with the Brockway and then towed the Ford back to the Carlstadt garage. The Owner Malcolm Lite knew nothing of the accident until he showed up to work the next morning! Da Wash Boss said: WOW, I am glad your uncle was not hurt, but what a way to start your monday morning. Did they save the body or scrap the whole truck? Was a good looking truck before the crash. Happy Holidays to everyone. Thanks for sharing Rich, I am glad to see new life in this room. Danny Cassello - TRPC "EST 1963" - East Hartford, CT
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    Oshkosh Silent Hoist

    Topic was originally created by Mark Redman on Tow411 in June of 2007: It's been awhile since I've posted anything here. Several months ago we had some Oshkosh/Silent Hoist discussions with shots of these trucks in use by various towing companies. Here's a shot of one of these trucks doing what it was initially intended to do when in use by the US Navy. This was taken at Naval Air Station Lakehurst, NJ in the late 1950's or early 1960's. Standing by is an old Marmon-Herrington MB-1 crash truck and a couple of smaller MB-2 rigs. Stay safe, everyone, Da Wash Boss said: SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very nice Mark,,,, those are some great machines. Thanks for posting. Danny Cassello - TRPC - East Hartford, CT hpgtowing said: Nice shot Mark..... This is the first time I 've seen one doing what they were intended for..... Thanks. Steve
  5. Topic Originally Created on Tow411 in July of 2007: North Carolina Highway Patrol Dispatched us to the ramp off of I-85 South to the I-77 South bound ramp last week to an overturned flatbed truck, that had been loaded with two aluminum coils, 26,000 lbs each - both coils of course were on the ground - we flipped the truck and trailer back over - and used our rotator to load one coil back on the damaged trailer, but because of extensive damage to the trailer, and the rush to clear the ramp, we loaded the second coil on the back of the rotator to take to the customer that was only about a mile or so from the wreck, the whole job was done in less than three hours. Got To Really Love Those Quick & Easy Job's! By the way.. We Got Paid the Same Day! ~ ~ HUNTER BOYZ ~ When Second Best Just Won't Do! kw5030 said: I would have to say those are some great shots, from the start to end. Did the tator lift the ass end of the trailer? xcessiveforce52 said: good team effort,trucks look good.....just a question you mentioned total job 3 hrs, was that from disp. to drop at cust. or arrival at scene up to road cleared? cause down here they would probably hang us from our boom if we were not in and out in an hour..... foxtow82 said: Very nice job from beginning to end! Trucks look very sharp. Thanks for sharing, JARED Ed Barker said: Good job,I think that was a reasonable time frame,nice equipment,,we never lift a coil without blocks in the line,,,I personally think you were pushing your luck,,,just my opinion,,,looks like you all stayed right on the ball and gotter done,,,,Xcessiveforce you don't have to worry about me working down your way,that kind of pressure would take the fun out of it,,,but my hats off to you.Our law enforcement is pretty reasonable within reason ,,,,but I'm sure the traffic issue is totally different from here to there.Take care,Ed BigWheelRecovery said: Nice job guys i hope you have a 4 hour min and i like the big jerr-dan looks sharp Candle1 said: great team effort .nice job with the pictures linda and jim of schliers towing glenn27 said: Nice work--and good looking equipement.... One observation, please--in two of your pics about halfway through the string--I noticed your snatch blocks hooked to the stiff legs, with the hook "UP". Years ago--we were taught in both Bill Jackson's and Ross Kinman's recovery classes. This was supposidly , in case of breakage, the force would be directed downward toward the ground, not up in the air.They stressed to have the hook openings upward. Is that just "old school thinking'? Original member creating topic said: Nice work--and good looking equipment.... One observation, please--in two of your pics about halfway through the string--I noticed your snatch blocks hooked to the stiff legs, with the hook "UP". Years ago--we were taught in both Bill Jackson's and Ross Kinman's recovery classes. This was supposidly , in case of breakage, the force would be directed downward toward the ground, not up in the air.They stressed to have the hook openings upward. Is that just "old school thinking'? wstowing11 wrote: Are those two Jerr-Dans there ? Original member creating topic said: The two 50 ton trucks are Jerr-Dan - the tator we have is a Century.. Jerrys Road Service said: Yes sir there stating hooks UP.not down bro i was always tought as well hook openings UP.also we always chain axel up the frame rail and NEVER single line 26k LOL.use blocks bro were not bashing at all sir just trying to help and not see a accident bro.thats why we bother to even say Sh*t so there wont be problems no personal fellings here were all one BIG happy family. wstowing11 said: Is that a 60 ton Jerr-Dan and a 50 ton Jerr-Dan , along with the Miller rotator ?? Original member creating topic said: The tator is a 60 ton, it is a Century, the two Jerr-Dan trucks are both 50 ton trucks. Brian Coleman said: You have some great trucks and the job is done but that is some of the most dangerous rigging I have ever seen in my near 30 years of hd. towing. The Towboss said: We never place cargo ( espically coils OR steel products ) back on the trailer it came off of, explain to the judge how you determined that that trailer was safe after being parked on its side and you took the liabilty to put the load back on it, and I know it's only to get back to the YARD. Get some steel chokers to lift your coils with, much safer, no link damage to chain, and they wont slide. Opinions are like A** holes, we all got 'em. Don't tell me NO, and never say it "CAN'T be done", cause I'll prove you wrong !!! www.waffco.net leroy hedrick said: nice trucks quick recovery nice to have big iron but i do it with a old 750 and a 650 i just use more tools in the ole' toolbox. ken fondren said: hunter i have a question ????? how do you like those j/d 50 ton???? The boss has been having dinners with j/d corp looking at getting 2 of them 50s. Hopefully I am next in line for one of them, any feed back would be really nice . Original member creating topic said: We like them very well, their really nice, I'm not sure you want to know, but I'll say this, as far as I'm concerned their the best we have, my second choice is Century, but Jerr-Dann does make the best wrecker body, "note : my opinion" timstruckservice said: The Tip of the Hook Should be Pointing upward, So that in the event the tip break's off ....... The Force of the Snatch Block Goes downward into the Ground instead of up in the air & Hurting someone or something. I too Wondered about where the Chain Hook up on the Steer axle was at ..... I hook a chain around the Frame - Up & over the steering link arm for the Tie Rod end & then hook a sister chain around the I-Beam so I get as high as possible for pulling down on the axle ! Also, I wonder why not use the Rotater to bring the Trailer over instead of Twisting it over from the Tractor's weight ???? If you got it there why not use it ???? It looked like the Chain holding the Coil needed a second one run through there Just In Case something happened .... Better to be safe than Sorry !...........Nice Pictures & Very Nice looking Trucks....TIM Heavytowman12 said: Like those type jobs. Upright it, lift them up, load them, then tow it away. Beat's a overturned van trailer that has to be off loaded any day. Do you very many on that ramp. Nice work men! Original member creating topic said: Yes we do, that I-85 South to I-77 South bound ramp has claimed more than it's fair share of trucks, car's, motorhomes, horse trailers, just name it, there has for the longest been a lot of overturns on that ramp we don't have a rotaition here in Charlotte, we have zones, there are four zone's and four companies that handle each area "zone" around Mecklenburg County, that ramp there has been in our zone for as long as I've worked for Hunter and that would be since 1996, the worst one I can remember has been several years ago, but we worked one on that ramp one day that had a load of truck batteries, and of course they were all over the ground out there, so yes, that one took a while to clean up, those things are HEAVY, and after picking them all up, by hand, each and every one of them, talk about being sore.. I never want to see one like that again.
  6. Topic Originally Posted on Tow411 in April of 2007: Recieved a call from the NYS Thruway Authority for a rolled T/T blocking lanes and a 35,000 inget that had seperated from the trailer. The inget went through the guardrail and Fence it came to rest 150 yards away, in a Field down an embankment. We rigged the rotator w/ 4 lines (ours has 5 winches), we pulled the unit sideways into the median to open the road. Now with traffic free flowing on both sides of us we rigged for uprighting. We hooked our holmes 1801 to the front of the tractor, just to start the curl, because the frame was so twisted. We then rolled w/tator and prepared unit for towing back to our facility on wrecker. While that was going on the tator and our 50 ton lowboy attended to the inget in the field, loaded and transport back to our facility. This is why the tator is a perfect piece of equipment for us. We don't get a lot of room or lanes to work with. Mike, Justin, Joey, Dwight and me helped make this recovery a success in a very quick time. Wade200 said: I would like to see some pictures of that rotator. Is it custom built? Specs, etc. And nice job on the recovery!Daniel Wade Tony's Towing, Inc. Daniel Wade Ed Barker said: Is that the rotator that Scooby was working on?????? It sure looks like a nice unit would like to see some pictures of that unit. Thanks,Ed wstowing11 said: What the hell, I am going to ask for pics of the tator too !!!!! Scooby said: looks good, glad to see it out there working glad to see my welds are holding...lol
  7. An unknown member started this topic in 2010: He was talking to Blue Stripe about his new 600R and the topic turned to who else had them and where they went.He was told his is serial number 25 so who has the rest? He believed Cal Towing has number 23 and was told that number 24 went to Japan and Delhi Towing in Cincinnati Ohio has number 6. So if you know where these units are and can fill in the numbers please reply. Thanks 01 - 02 - Cardinal Towing - Minneapolis Minnesota 03 - 04 - 05 - 06 - Delhi Towing - Cincinnati Ohio 07 - 08 - CTR Inc Dillsburg Pa 09 - Andy's Towing - Pembroke Massachusetts 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 23 - California Towing - Salinas California 24 - Japan unknown company 25 - Boardman Towing - Boardman Ohio Brian991219 said: Here are a few pics of the 600R I operated in New Mexico, it was purchased new by Chris at Boardman Towing, then we bought it. It is somewhere in Texas now, not sure where. Here are a few more action shots. And some more. I loved my truck, but I was only the driver not the owner so I didn't have a say when they sold it.
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    Need Tool Advice

    Topic Created by jmf889 on Tow411 in November of 2013: Hi guys I'm fairly new to heavy duty been doing it about a year now but have been in towing since i was born. The other night i had a 06 Volvo vnl tractor on the side of the highway first time dealing with a Volvo figured out that the front axle is different than any other truck used my wider forks that was easy then it was onto taking the drive shaft out my road service mechanic was already out there trying to fix the guy until i got there he stripped out the drive shaft bolts so taking that out wasn't going to work so i said ok ill pull the axle went to pull the axle which i've only recently started doing and found out that's it much easier than pulling the shaft and ive only ever needed a 15/16 socket well that didn't fit and i didn't have the socket that ft it so i let the truck run flipped it in high range and towed it back to our shop about 15-20 miles and didn't go over 45mph truck was fine when i got it back to the shop thank god. So my question is what are the other common axle bolt socket sizes i need so i don't get stuck like this and also what is the best axle to pull two different people have told me two different things my boss said pull the right rear our other heavy guy said pull the left front so im confused on that? also something else that i was wondering if anyone else knows about i just got brand new BA axle straps i tighten them as much as i possibly can i make sure the ratchet is in the locked position and they constantly come loose on me its getting very frustrating anyone else have this problem?? SF Towing said: You should carry a full socket set in your truck. I carry 3/8-1 5/16" in 1/2" Deep Impact and 10mm-32mm in 1/2" Metric. Never ever run a truck while towing it, you are just asking for trouble. If I remember correctly those Volvos are 1"(24mm) or 27mm for the axles. The front axle is different because it was air ride. Unknown member said: Volvos are generally 1-1/8 or so Ive found. Some people will tell you leaving it running is fine. Its all up to you and what you want to risk. Also youll need a cover with bigger holes for the studs for those. Unknown member said: Majority of trucks these days are 15/16" or 1 1/16" nuts on axle studs and 3/8", 1/2", and 12mm 12 pt bolts on drive shafts. I always keep fulls sets of everything in my truck in 1/2" and 3/8" drive. But my small toolbox that I grab for removing driveline and tapping into air system, only has those 5 sockets in it. -mcr nybulldog said: why didn't you tow it from the back? running the truck while towing is asking for lots of trouble. hose brakes on oil or water and you don't notice good by motor. trans jumps into gear going down the road and you could be needing a tow i keep every size tool ratchet from 1/4 up to 3/4 with every socket. the 3/4 not as many sockets but if i need to pull a tire off i can. Queensway Tire said: On the BA axle straps, what forks are you using? I would bet your forks don't fit the axle tight, and that is why the straps come loose. I have a set of front axle forks that fit very tight on the axle, and the straps never come loose. At the same time, I only use the straps on empty or very light trucks, I use chains on tractor trailer combos and heavier units. teddy22 said: Be careful if it was air ride front axle, you could do damage on the axle not using the rught forks or putting in wrong position! rym611 said: my ba axle straps came loose until they broke in. they like to stretch when new. I would hook go a couple miles, pull over and tighten them up. When they were new I was doing this alot. Now that they are broke in I don't have an issue with them loosening up anymore. glnstwng said: make sure you're not pulling all the slack out before ratcheting. the strap must contact itself on the ratchet so that the fibers can bite into each other, if not it will slip out of the ratchet. Giddyup said: gln is right. You need to have 2 wraps before it is tight. A lot of drivers pull the strap really tight and then ratchet tight. It will always come loose that way. I pull it tight, back it off so I have 2 wraps and ratchet it up and can go 300 miles and they won't come loose, new or old straps. https://www.facebook.com/Towingincanada tteck151 said: When buying drive line and axle nut sockets , very important to buy top of the line brand and duplicate putting your second set in cab away from others . Nothing worse than 2 am 60 miles out and you break or it fly's off impact into tall grass . That one time will pay for second set . Vernon75 said: Very true… I learned that the hard way. jmf889 said: Thanks guys sorry i haven't replied been crazy busy at work did 90 hours last week..... one more question maybe someone can help me out with ... i bought the new snap on 18v lithium ion 1/2" impact gun cordless its great i love it the gun is an animal but im noticing it might be to powerful it keeps stripping out drive shaft bolts im using craftsman 12 pt sockets should i spend the money and get snap on sockets im thinking maybe they will bite better?? or is the gun to powerful? SF Towing said: the gun isn't too powerful, it's the sockets. I have the same gun. Get a set of quality 12 point impact sockets, whether it's sunex, mac, snap on. Rod Midkiff said: my gun will not break drive line bolts lose. still have to break them lose by hand. I like the gun.. just wish It had enough umpth.. I've also worn out three snap on 1/2 inch drive line socket's out. (kinda surprised I've worn so many out in a few years of use) I've also used craftsman sockets on it.. I usually end up with 2 halves of a 1/2 inch socket on the 1st or 2nd use. (good reason to not put your hand on the socket when you pull the trigger). stay safe Rod JUSTFISHING said: Little extra but I paint and repaint my black snapon sockets yellow and orange makes them easier to see. svcmgrnow said: Clean out the inside of your 12 point sockets regularly too, especially if you do a lot of construction or refuse trucks. Grease tends to pack up in there and this prevents the socket from seating properly on the bolt head, leading to stripped driveline bolts and prematurely worn out sockets. Don't ask me how I know this. lol Tow Daddy said: I use the same gun and love it. have learned to only use quality sockets (I use snap on) and haven't broke any of them but they will wear out and need replaced like others said. rarely find a bolt it won't break loose. towing4u said: One nice trick to use is the new wobble extensions, they allow the socket to move slightly when trying to remove a driveshaft that has a pitch to it. I usually use the small extension and a snap on socket on my snap on gun. If you have access, grab a couple of easy outs for 3/8, 1/2. It usually ends up being a 7/16 and 9/16 tapered socket easy out and that will remove the stripped out bolts when you have one that wont budge. It happens on Volvo's to me after it has been towed or had the driveshaft out before and someone over tightened them when they reinstalled. JUSTFISHING said: I use a tool tote , you know the ones with the handel in the middle and tray each side get a quality one that will last. I always carry and use a hand wire brush on the bolt heads before trying to loosen , have my go to sockets painted diffrent colors for easy I.D . Use snap on worth the price and garranteed , rep has replaced mine a couple times no charge just because they were getting worn on edge. If you need an extension use the extended snapon socket when you can , you loose tourqe whenever you use a standard extension . I also have screw driver , 9/16 wrench and socket w/ rachet for the bolt cap style. Pry bar and big hammer , those are my go to tools , tiger tool a must when needed in the truck till needed to big for the tote. Don't forget to put your tote back in your truck when done , don't forget it and run over it . Don't ask how I know this! Terry
  9. Topic Originally Created by Spitz in October of 2013: Thought you guys probably like to look at pictures as much as I do so here is what we've been doing to our truck. Was showing areas of rusting and of course the more you dig the more you find. We sandblasted everything from the cab back and primed/painted it. We are adding two new full stainless boxes, we chopped off the rear light boxes in lieu of stainless along with mudflap hangers. I'll post more as we get more done as. Its starting to come back together and was much more work than I had expected. All painted, ready for some parts! New slides, ours were just starting to touch the bolts. New phoenix lumber basket. This side just had short brackets for the hydraulic tank originally. I removed the left hand toolbox brackets to replace them with a different design and tossed them in the scrap pile later realizing I could mount both the hydraulic tank and a toolbox on the same bracket. So I dug them back out and they fit perfectly. Trying to get it going, lots of little things that need to be done. Stainless steps from Virgo, tank/stainless straps from alumitank. Looks much better in person, the picture dulls it all out for some reason? Sp sign panel from Idaho wrecker. Looks much better than being open, and I can still grab the wire rope to engage the winch if I have to. Tank/ steps again. Glimpse of the new stainless boxes, stainless control channel and new rear light mounts. We cut the old ones off at about 4 inches from the subrame and just use that to mount the new ones to and it seems to work really well, they are solid. Orcas Tow said: Looking very sharp! kochsauto said: where did you get the stainless tail lamps? Spitz said: Local welding shop custom made them. They have a laser cutter and we just gave them the old ones and asked that they could make the new ones a bit bigger so they would slide over the existing housing that we left welded on the subframe. Turned out really well. Just about done, few odds and ends to clean up but otherwise ready to go. The truck is now up and running well. One thing I noticed is the bed doesn't rattle around on bumps anymore, I assume the bed slides let the bed jump around quite a bit, no more of that, she's tight. I also added an air coupler, we have juice brakes but an air tank and compressor for the PTO. I just spliced a line and ran the coupler to the front of the battery box, took me all of 10 minutes and now I can run an airgun or whatever off the truck. Still have some other ideas stiring around in my head. Toolbox lights and bed winch lights, both should be an easy thing to do, just need to do it.
  10. Topic Originally Created by Keen1051 said: 2014 Bentley Convertible V12, brand new, owner bought it, had me haul home, didn't want to drive it. $230,000 Kells Towing said: Keen 1051 the one you towed will probably end up the same way as the one we towed yesterday, 1996 Bentley Azure with 21000km maybe after you buy these cars you can't drive them, only tow them, ours had a leak in the hydraulic roof system, customer wanted it towed, instead of driving it to the dealer. Tj BlackAutoload said: Amazing how much cash folks can **** away... Looks a like a toyota solara with a better grill to me. someotherplace said: Yeah, I can think of a lot better cars I could buy with that money. Or a lot of cars I could buy with that money, instead of just one car! But the point stands, do you have enough coverage? I wonder what our on-hook is with my current employer. Last time it was my job to know these things, TX only requires 50K on-hook. I don't think it would be difficult to cause 50K+ damage to a car like that... Richard cptowman said: Had to tow one back to dealer, before approval I had to provide $300,000 insurance cert.
  11. Topic Created by LSChicago in March of 2014: I towed this 69 Chevelle SS for a friend. It's a 32,000 mile car, but now has a 1,000HP supercharged big block. It is one of about 200 with factory headlight washers. Here it's going for it's first repaint. http://www.LEDandSafety.com 2938 N. River Rd. River Grove, IL. 60171 Phone 708.695.5079 Cell 773.727.2767 Blalocktow said: Nice Chevelle . How is the 650 doing? Jef said: My driveway is missing that car, I'll pay for a secondary tow for you to bring it up here Nice tow LSChicago said: So far very good! My only complaint is the headlights. I'm waiting fot the Maxxima replacements which should be coming within a week or so. I put LED replacements in my pickup, and now I can't believe how dim the factory 650 lights are. Hopefully this week I'll get the driving lights installed. Blalocktow said: I put HIDs in mine the work pretty good not as good as the lights in my 550 thu. LSChicago said: About the same as the F550/V10. Thanks largely to the extra trans gear. towman33 said: Nice SS, how is the fuel mileage on the 650 ? never seen one with the v 10.
  12. Topic originally created by tntower in April of 2014: Monday 4/21/2014, we took Steve Sedberry's (buddystator) 1965 Ford Mustang to Discovery Park of America in Union City, TN to be placed on exhibit. This car was originally purchased by his great uncle brand new. Before they would take car for on loan for exhibit, all gas had to be drained and battery removed. Once unloaded into building, the car was placed on gojacks to move into place in museum. W you can check out the museum and see all it has to offer at http://www.discoveryparkofamerica.com/
  13. Topic Originally created by Keen1051 in September of 2013: The pictures really don't do it justice, it looked like it came off the showroom floor! Greenway Towing said: Looks like an amazing machine and built like a tractor. localtowee said: Wow. Tidy old girl indeed. Jef said: Took me a minute to figure out how your 4pt system works, but seems secure to me. Nice tow. Dualie said: actually to say that one is showroom isn't doing it justice. They were never that nice from the factory!
  14. Topic Created by towman33 in December of 2013: this car is on it's way to auction after a stop at the detail shop blalocktow said: What no flames? BlackAutoload said: I like the soft hookup. (No metal contact to the vehicle. Endless loops and 8 point ) towman33 said: No flames yet this is our first emission truck putting here through the paces to she how she hold's up so far so good first 10,000 in the book's. Plan to do the flames drop bumper and a big old bow tie visor in the spring. as for the hook up thank's for the comment had to be extra careful with this one as she is going to auction hoping to bring some good number's don't know how many mirror's it's gonna cross but put the show on as far as the hook up customer was beyond pleased with the care that was taken I was happy I got the green light to play and not rush, all and all a very good experience!!!
  15. Topic created by Motiv8td in Aug of 2013: Since you guys post up some pretty cool rides, I thought I'd throw in one of our own. A.T.R.I Med/HD # 473-2013 WM 4/5 #140048 Smith System - Driver Trainer towman33 said: That is cool as hell very nice!!! IDK if it's 4.2 cool though. Raddamant said: That's insanely cool. Not to deviate too much, just wondering if you bought special insurance for this tow? Motiv8td said: Likely. Our GM is sharp as a tack and I believe his background is insurance litigation. My management team in general is top notch which actually helps make my job easier. hoover said: It actually sold for 4.6 million at Barret Jackson Motiv8td said: That's what I thought. There were some reports that it was only 4.2. Since I'm not the one who ponied up the dough, I wasn't exactly sure. Our GM has it posted on our Facebook as 4.2 million as well. Either way, still cool to see it one of our trucks instead of a competitor. TOM JR said: Doesnt get much cooler than that.
  16. BEAUMONT — A tow truck driver who was left pinned underneath a vehicle after he was struck Thursday afternoon, Jan. 17, was eventually pulled from under the vehicle, fire officials have reported. The crash happened on Beaumont Ave., south of California Ave., in Beaumont. The victim had been in the process of loading a disabled vehicle on a flat-bed tow truck when another car plowed into the stranded sedan and tow truck. He was hospitalized with moderate injuries after the collision. CHP and other emergency personnel were first alerted to the accident shortly before 1 p.m., after receiving reports of a tow truck driver who had been hit by a vehicle and was pinned underneath. When officials arrived they found one victim trapped and pinned under the vehicle that had struck him and the vehicle he was loading onto the tow vehicle. Firefighters quickly used specialized equipment to lift the vehicle off the trapped victim and freed them. AMR then transported the person to an area hospital. “Firefighters extricated one victim who was pinned under a vehicle,” CalFire/Riverside County Fire Department said in a social media release on Twitter. “The victim was transported to an area hospital by ground ambulance with moderate injuries.” While firefighters worked at the scene, CHP called for the temporary closure of Beaumont Ave., between California Ave. and 1st St. The roadway was reopened around 1:30 p.m. CHP is investigating the cause of the accident and their investigation is ongoing. RESOURCE LINK
  17. Topic created by BigBen835 in June of 2007: Just tryin' to get home. After a couple of beers, and navigating home, or what he thought was home. The driver of this ranger found this DNR trout stocking pond in the middle of the night. The next morning the land owner saw the tire tracks going across her lawn and walked out and saw this truck in her pond. No one inside and a pile of wet clothes and beer cans next to the bank. Sheriff's dept called for the crane thing to remove it. Dad and driver showed up to pull it out with his pickup with his trusty tow strap while I was setting up. Deputy- "Son, I ve got a couple of questions for you. Why don't you step over here for a minute." Dad was not too impressed either. Didn't want to get too close to edge, and bank was already tipped in. Everyone needs just a little more stick now and then. But we got it done. Canadiantowman said: i bet you that s the largest fish to come out of that pond, nice job. TOwBoY88 said: You guys have some nice equipment. Thanks for the pics.
  18. Topic Created by unknown member with Kauff's in June of 2007: Got a call from a customer on 6/21/07 to recover a fire truck from his front lawn. Upon arrival this is what I found. The customer had gone to Georgia and purchased this 1987 Seagrave 100 ft latter truck to ship overseas, he had arrived late that night and decided to park in his front yard (oops! park on top of septic tank) well he fell in and got stuck and then he tried to pull out and that made it worst, well he wanted a simple pull at the rear, so it wouldn't cost too much,front right tire was completely down in the septic tank so I explained to the customer the game plan, I then positioned my truck in the neighbors yard and rotated over the front, ran two red slings with screw pin shackles to some attachment points, lifted the front and boomed away from tank, then repositioned at the rear to winch straight back. Job Accomplished. MTA415 said: I can smell it from here having a tator sure makes it easy. good execution... I B X said: Why is it people have money to buy things like that, and spend it freely (plus overseas shipping) but complain about the cost for a service they need???? BTW, good job. In Memory of Brotherandsons who said: Real Nice job with an awkward bitch. That's a Seagrave 100' RA ( rear admiral) when they 1st came out they had issues with stability at low angle and actually contributed to some serious injuries and one death i know of because the ladder would buckle under strain.. Ass heavy too, the turntable/ rear stabilzer mass on that thing is very heavy and centered behind the rear axle. I am surprised that catch basin didn't go thru 1st. One thing they DO have is solid pull anchors front and rear, which were real important on the single axles like this one, they sink like a rock . I forget how heavy they are but, somewhere in the mid 30k's I know they went to Tandems on the RA II but the rep of the ladder kinda was never any good. Chicago had a bunch of em and after a collapse of one in NYC(L108) they came out with very strict rules about not using total extension and height below a certain angle.( Kinda like runnin a Tator!) . When they used a ladder pipe on them they had to operate the nozzle with ropes from the ground cuz it couldn't handle the weight of a fireman and the nozzle reaction. Wonder if the people overseas are aware of it. I'm sure "Mr Buy Cheap /Sell high/ I don't want an expensive recovery bill" will be right up front with them
  19. Topic originally created by Nickg in November of 2013: Well this truck has been off the road for the last 4 years we recently been getting allot of calls for equipment moving so we decided on getting her looking good again. over the years we took parts off her had to make a new drop bumper and visor and now shes finally getting dual 5" stacks. to start it was a little rust repair on the lower door and fix the cracking where the mirrors mount. some bondo sanding then primer was ready to be scuffed and painted this is where we are at now hopefully will be mostly back together by next friday after a good color sand and buff RIGGIOTOWING said: Man you guys never stop! You gotta love the New England rust. I don't know how you guys do it but your whole fleet looks awesome. You sure have some talented guys over there. Maybe I will send some of my projects over to you guys to get me caught up. LOL!!!! Towman33 said: Thank's for all the comment's, It is tough to get all the truck's in one place but we will do our best to get some fleet shot's up for you guy's thank's again!! Nickg said: RIGGIO we have enough to keep us busy for awhile! lol winter came to quick and trying to still get stuff done in between is tough at times. Thanks for the kind words its allot of hard work but its like our life size Tonka toys! i guess you can say we haven't fully grown up lol.
  20. A little history as we work to clear topics from the old message board system. A decade after Tow411 was founded it was apparent that the number of Canadian Towing Related Topic had increased to a level which are Canadian Members should have their own forum. The forum was opened and inadvertently place in an Outside North America category. We just wanted to see who was awake ( that's the story and we're sticking too it. LOL) Well MrBill caught it right away and said: Since when did Canada leave North America? Why are we listed under the outside North America category? Hello? Bill It's so flat here you can watch your dog run away for 3 days feenstras said: I was thinking the same thing. canadiantowman said: cause the Americans hate us, lol MrBill said: I doubt any one hates us but someone needs a serious geography lesson Bill It's so flat here you can watch your dog run away for 3 days Rodney P said: Bill, It's so flat here you can watch your dog run away for 3 days Bill, I think I saw your dog crossing the Suspension Bridge from Cincinnati Ohio to Covington Ky yesterday. Maybe "it" (couldn't tell whether male or female) got wind Canada had been moved to South America or somewhere. Has "it" been missing two or three days or do you still have "it" in sight.? TowZone said: MY BAD.... I had debate for years about opening a Canada forum as I did not want any of our Canadian members to feel they were being alienated. Then I began to see more news and legal concerns out of Canada. So I was working on a forum to archive those in, when a legal topic came up that I thought should get more attention. I stuck Canada in a place that I could easily find it while I was moving topics not realizing went I made ti visible today it was in the Outside North America Category. Does anyone see value in having this forum which is sponsored by Tow Canada? or is this not an appropriate change? Acestowing said: Thanks for adding a Canada Forum Ron, its the first thing I come to now, with all of the changes coming up here in Ontario it is great to have it all in one place! Bryce Weber - Aces Towing WM 091409 Level 6/7 1-519-889-3350 pttowguy said: This is a great idea......I hope we can generate enough "traffic" here to warrant is continued existence. For those that are geographically challenged, check out Windsor Ontario on a map, which is where I live. We are due south of Detroit Michigan and we head north to cross the border into the USA. MrBill said: Thanks for the Canada room lets hope its used often,however I wish to take back my comment about your penguin you can bring him back anytime!! Rodney, My dog and I are in the living room planning to watch the Daytona 500 which I believe is North America. Both of us however have been on the bridge you spoke about and we are both breathing a sigh of relief that our next trip out your way will not require the use of an ocean liner to get there. Thanks everyone for your support in putting Canada back in North America! It was a short but hard fought campaign. Enough said, I will now carry on as if I was normal. Bill It's so flat here you can watch your dog run away for 3 days Stapley Towing said: great idea, Thanks for the Canadian room, makes a good spot to discuss laws, liscencing etc that will differ from the US paul windsor said: Thanks for the Canada room now i feel like we are part of the tow 411 brother hood and we can deal on what and how were gona get screwed by the new laws and regulations coming are way!!! buferd1966 said: thank you for the room Dan's Towing northont.can. wm00860 Hook206 said: THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. HF IN BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA WM 040496 ACE said: Hi Ron, Haven't been on here for a while, but thanks for placing this forum here. It is a place where us Canuk's can post whats happening here at home. The towing and recovery part is the same all over, but there are somewhat different rules & regs for both sides of the border. From what we hear & read here in Ontario we are going to see some BIG changes in the Towing Industry as we have known it. But if it levels the playing field for everyone then it's ok with me. Now I'm going back to my igloo to watch the hockey game & finish my chilled Canadian ..... I've got a cold one waiting for ya Keep up the good work Cheers Ken Buehler Automotive & Transmission Alma Ont
  21. Topic Originally Created by Webb Wehbe on Tow411 in July of 2008: As a group of concerned towers, we have put together a website (www.bill87.com) to fight Bill 87, the new proposed legislation in Ontario, Canada. The people that put this bill together have already divided the province up amongst their own stakeholders and unless you know someone, you weren't included. Big business is behind this bill as it puts the future of all the small and independent towers in their hands. It gives the board unlimited powers beyond any government agency. For example, they would have more powers than the Police and Revenue Canada (Canadian version of the US IRS), they are the judge and jury, all paid for by your favorite people. The PTAO used their membership drive in 2007 to springboard to this saying that their membership wanted this bill; the fact is that other than the board, only a select few knew anything at all about the back room dealings that were going on. They even only bother informing their own membership the day _after_ the first reading too place in Toronto. The newly appointed towing council executive is private retired tower who has a training school. Other than many years of towing, the head of the PTAO does not have any real professional accreditation and he is self-appointed, as far as I am aware. Although Bill 87 will affect every tower in the province, they have refused to inform anyone but their existing membership. They have not advertised their local meetings in any trade magazines or local news papers. They have refused to contact all the independent operators, even though they proposed a law that will affect every tower. On the off chance that you have hear and attend one of their meetings, you will not be permitted to speak without paying the $350 annual fee. With the onset of Bill 87, the PTAO and The Ontario Towing Council (TOTC) (guess what, PTAO members now belong to the TOTC) has done so many inappropriate actions, no way any person in their right mind should support Bill 87. As one local conservative MPP put it, if you support this bill, leave he following behind, all your keys, your checkbook, and your livelihood. Bill 87 will eliminate every small tower as they will not qualify for the multiple licenses that will be required. They will need to operate under a big tower's license or they will not have the legal right to work. Are your trucks older then 5 years old? (look at what happened to the taxi drivers). Ever been convicted or even accused of an unrelated crime? (don't plan on being able to get a license or own part of a company). Work a specific chunk of asphalt? (might belong to someone else soon). **** off the PTAO? (there goes your license). Charge a rate reasonable for your area? (someone else will be setting your rates) Charge a fuel surcharge? (not without someone elses approval). PTAO memberships at $350 sound fair? (you can bet on the burocracy costing millions with high licensing fees to match). Accused of wrong doing? (your business is shut down until your hearing). Plan to fight their judgement in a real court of law? (your license forbids you from doing so) Fix your trucks with non-OEM parts? (truck license will be revoked). Looking to buy a new truck out of the US? (not if the manufacturer hasn't submitted to their new regulations) Quite simply, it puts the big towers in control of your company. If you support your industry, visit www.bill87.com and join in to support the fight against Bill 87. The website will continue to improve daily so visit often. Inform your fellow towers about www.bill87.com. This site is set up and maintained free as a service to the industry. If you have details to contribute, please let us know right away. We aren't against reasonable regulation - it keeps the bad apples out of the mostly good bunch, but we can't afford to allow ourselves to be placed under the dictatorial conditions set up by a dozen people who stand to benefit heavily. Take care. Webb Wehbe Certified Wreck Master 6/7 AC Supporting Independent Towers Last edited by Webb Wehbe on 9:49 PM - Jul 28, 2008, edited 1 time in total. One Year Later Acestowing asked: So where is this at now? Bryce Weber - Aces Towing WM 091409 Level 6/7 1-519-889-3350 CdnTowGuy said: It was announced at the PTAO general meeting in July that Bill 87 was essentially "off the table". However the issue has not died or gone away. It was noted that the O.P.P. and the Ministry of Transportation will be tabling thier own legislation and regulation of our industry in the province. There was no idea as to what may be in the proposal from O.P.P./M.T.O. This should happen shortly after the House at Queens Park sits for the next next session. The PTAO was still attempting to propose an idea where towers from the province would have an input into whats coming, but I have not heard of anything since the AGM in July. Legislation is still coming, but I don't know if anyone knows in what form. Steve In 2011 Towmonster1962 said: The bill has been squashed by the municipalities last summer its done with ByTown Tow said: The bill is not squashed it was re-introduced December of 2010 under bill 147. Here's a link http://www.sources.com/Releases/NR1095.htm http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_ ... illID=2448
  22. Topic Originally created on Tow411 by jaytowing in April 2016: I am a new start up business out in new york. I personally been towing for 8-9 years now but i just opened up my own company. I do get help from local companies and shops that calls me for tows but i am trying to get a loan for 30k - 40k in order to buy 2 trucks for my business. i am not sure who i can go to, in order to get that type of loan? all i keep running into are just 1 truck loans. I just want to get directed to the right lender! please help! i do roadside \ illegal parking \ repo and accident removal i do get busy at times. just want to expand In Memory of NationalAutow who said: There are more than enough lenders out there. The evidence is everywhere. I would look at more than there willingness to finance more than one truck. You need to make yourself "bankable" by being a good low risk. Start with a hefty down payment (say 50%) on one truck. Work that well for 6 to 12 months and do not miss payments anywhere for anything. You need to attempt to work your self into a situation where you become your own bank. That is truly where the money and the peace come in. IF you woke up tomorrow, had the phone ringing and a small fleet of paid for trucks you would smile from ear to ear all day long. When you wake up every day and your first or second thought has to be on making that next truck payment, you will operate your business to serve that payment. You want to operate the business to serve you. Grow with baby steps. IT will be solid growth that way. jaytowing said: thank you! good advice! i was just thinking i take a loan out enough to buy 2 trucks but used trucks so i wont kill myself on the payments. because where i opreate from there are soo many towing companies and they want to charge soo cheap just to get the calls! so i have to choose wisely builder2 said: Think about it this way, you either have payments or maintenance, hopefully not both at the same time. goodmichael said: I hate to be a nay sayer, but with todays economy, and the prospect of the near future, it just might be advisable to take on the least amount of debt possible. Everyone wants to grow, but in this business you many times make less with more. Three times the equipment equals five times the headaches in this field. All equipment breaks down. That new truck is a used one once you sign on the dotted line, and it will quite likely have issues too. Good luck if you did not buy the chassis from a local dealer when you need to get it into the service rotation. Trucks of course need people to drive them, and people are, well, pretty unpredictable in how they keep their word. While there are many great drivers out there, many think that a pre trip inspection is setting the radio and ensuring that the climate control works. If you really want to go into debt, then by all means follow your dreams.
  23. Posted by Iron Forest Towing on Tow411 in 2016. when its time to sell out , how do you put a value on it ????? doingitall said: Having bought and sold several businesses over the years, I can tell you buying and selling a towing business will not be in anyway similar to selling many other types of small businesses, though in the end there really is no "norm". Most towing (and auto care type businesses too) are generally very small businesses based on the reputations of one or maybe a few key people. There are many questions that one would have to ask of such a small business ... 1. What is the likelihood that the business will continue at current volumes with a change of ownership? For most towing companies, that likelihood is very low. With key people leaving there is a high likelihood that local agreements as well as contracts with municipalities and motor clubs will have to be renegotiated, or more likely cancelled with a change of ownership. The local shops and customers that have come to rely on key people will not necessarily continue to use or recommend a company following a change of ownership. Just a fact. 2. Does the company have existing debt? With a likely drop in sales/revenue, can a new owner justify payments? Is existing equipment current and well maintained, or does it need to be updated or replaced? Most times when an towing company is for sale, the existing equipment is becoming dated and may be in need of significant maintenance to remain reliable. Or more commonly existing equipment is in need of updating and replacement. Alternatively, a company may be for sale following recent purchases of equipment and the business cannot support the payments ... 3. What is the likelihood that key employees will remain with the business following a significant change of ownership and leadership? Reality is not very likely. Every towing business (and frankly every very small business) that I have ever had any association with, the owners/managers and employees have very complex relationships that are in fact pretty intimate. They have all learned to work with each other but will have a lot of "interesting" intricacies. Those intricacies will be impossible to duplicate with a new owner, and in fact most employees choose to look elsewhere for employment either before or shortly after a change of ownership. Again, just simple fact. So at the end of the day, what does this type of business offer to a new owner? Not much really. A phone number, maybe a lot and a building, some trucks that may or may not be worth investing in, and maybe an employee or two that are worth keeping or that will stay long term? So when it comes to a sale price, many times value is estimated at some factor of yearly sales for small businesses, like 2-4 years of gross sales, or some multiple of net sales. But does that really work for a towing business that is very volatile and has so many variables like those above, and likely very high expenses relative to revenue? Most likely not. So what I have seen when most towing companies sell out is that few are willing to buy, and the value of the business is whatever the equipment and property will bring at auction prices. If you can get a buyer that will buy the business at even a penny more that that, I would take it in a heart beat and save myself the hassle of going through all of that. There are certainly exceptions, and a very well known company (in any industry, not just towing) that has been run well and has a long term reputation, no debt, current equipment that is paid for, nice property properly zoned and well maintained, and employees that are committed to success of the business long term, may have value above equipment and property. Those companies absolutely exist, but lets be honest, they are few and far between in this industry. These are my opinions and experiences, there are always other variables to consider with the sale of any small business other than what I can think of here. You have to consider everything when buying and selling. Good luck with whatever side of this you are on. In Memory of National Autow who replied: I would agree with doingitall and will add that you need to get with your accountant immediately. There is much more to selling a business than just having someone write you a big check and you walk out the door. In many cases, current owners are retiring and it maybe advantageous for you to finance all or part of the sale. This can cause the value to go up since the purchaser will not have to have as much cash outlay or borrow as much. It might work to your benefit to receive payments as opposed to a one time buy out where you would likely have to pay capital gains taxes. At the end of the day, the true value of any product or service is the price at which a willing seller and a willing buyer agree to. What part of the world are you in? I might be interested. wreckerman05 said: I am like you Iron Forest----still enjoy working,like some time off,,not ready to retire completely --but have thoughts of selling and not sure which way to go---I have over 43 years in this place and have made a good living but not sure of the market value --or a good working partner deal----??? seen some of my friends in this business sell and all went good and some that have gone bad--- ---or sell equipment and walk away???
  24. This list is compiled from an old topic on the Tow411 message board. Any assistance in the form of replies to complete the list would be appreciated. Topic was named: Compiling a list of the different Holmes Wreckers made over the years. Booms - Single or twin, boxed or skeleton, capacity, manual extension? Winches - Single or twin, capacity Bodyies - CA (cab to axle) available, single/tandem Options - Side outriggers Years Produced - Approximate duration of production Anything else that would be of interest W35 W45 400 440 460 480 500 525 550 600 650 750 850 1701 1801 Mechanical 110 missing details in topic 220 which was a pickup mounted unit with a boom like the 440, except that it had an electric winch on it.... 250 missing details in topic 330 missing details in topic 400 Single Line 440 Single line 8 ton boom 8000 winch 440 High Power 460 Twin Line 470 Unknown Model and Details 480 Twin Line (2) 4 ton booms (2) 8000 winches 485 Standard early (20's - 30's) twin boom unit 490 50's unit twin 3 ton booms twin 6000lb winches? 500 Twin Line 515 Twin Line - "Antique" 525 Forerunner to the Holmes 600 the main difference was the mast and how it was structured. On the 525 the booms were mounted half way up the mast like on the 460 & 515. The 525 has a boom rating of 6 tons each with a pulling capacity of 15 tons. It was designed to fit the 1-1/2 to 2 tons trucks with a 60" to 87" CA. The longer CA service bodies had a tool box ahead of the mast. The 20" drums had a max. capacity of 250" of cable. 550 Twin Line Unknown Model and Details 600 16 ton unit Twin Line Outriggers standard or optional equipment 650 Twin 10 ton booms 655 750 Twin Line Available Tandem or Single axle 850 Twin Line Tandem Axle W35 Twin Line - "Antique" W45 Twin Line - "Antique" W70, 70 ton mech. twin boom Hydraulic 475 missing details in topic 475T missing details in topic 1200 Hydraulic Update of a 500ish? 1601 aka Python Single 22 ton hydraulic boom twin line twin 16k (20k?) winches 1625 As 1601 (?) but 25 ton 1701 Hydraulic Update of a 750? 1801 Hydraulic Update of a 850? Others: Heavy Duty Power Wrecker - like a 485 but stronger mast & PTO driven Speed King - early 515? Traffic King - early 525? 5th Wheel Wrecker - hydraulic jib for 5th wheel tractor unit use Commander (1200?) Trooper Here's the listings from Catalog "Q" August 1955. Model 330 3 ton single Hand or Power Operation. Model 400 3 ton single Power Model 460 6 ton dual Power Model 470 8 ton dual Power Model 525 12 ton dual Power 15ton possible pull capacity Model 650 20 ton dual Power 2 speed PTO available Model 850 30 ton dual Power 2 speed gearing 35ton possible pull capacity central controls only Here's the listings from 1971 Model 220 4 ton single Electric Model 440 4 ton single Power Model 480 8 ton dual Power Model 500 10 ton dual Power (both drums have 7/16 x 200 ft. Cables) Model 600 16 ton dual Power Model 750 25 ton dual Power Model 850 40 ton dual Power ground and central controls.
  25. Originally Posted on Tow411 by Canadiantowman in January 2010: http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CT ... b=CP24Home I don't have a positive id on the driver, just hear say so far. will try to find out more. If it's who i think it is he was a good guy and worked at comtow. Mon Jan. 18 2010 3:53:22 PM Truck driver dies in rollover in east end Web Staff, cp24.com The driver of a flatbed truck has died following an accident in the east end on Monday afternoon. The rollover happened at about 1:40 p.m. in the Finch Avenue and Chartland Avenue area, near Midland Avenue. The male driver was pronounced dead at the scene. The truck was carrying a Bobcat excavator on the bed and fuel was leaking from the scene. Toronto police traffic services have shut down the area. Police say the driver lost control of the truck and started swerving around cars and came to rest against a tree. Investigators believe the accident may have been caused by a medical incident. Finch Avenue is closed in both directions between Brimley Road and Chartland Avenue. Stay with CP24 for traffic updates. Link_To_Story Driver's death caused by medical condition? By Tamara Cherry, Toronto Sun Last Updated: 18th January 2010, 11:02pm A 47-year-old man may have suffered a medical episode before his death on a northeast Toronto street Monday afternoon. The man was hauling a Bobcat construction vehicle on a flatbed truck west on Finch Ave. W., west of Brimley Rd., when he began drifting in and out of oncoming traffic at about 1:40 p.m., Toronto Police Const. Hugh Smith said. Firefighters had to cut the man out of the truck,which was flipped on its side beside a tree. He was pronounced dead at the scene. The man worked for Comtow towing company for about four years, according to a fellow employee who arrived at the scene, Smith said. "He may have suffered some type of medical episode," Smith said, adding an autopsy would be done to determine what, if anything, he suffered prior to the collision. The truck came to a rest just east of Midland Ave., known for heavy pedestrian traffic, Smith said. There were at least two vehicles that had to make quick turns to avoid being hit by the swerving truck, leaving tire marks in the pavement. I just found out it is who i thought it was, his name was Ron. sorry i can't remember his last name, Ron worked for us a few years back. Thoughts and prayers for his family. hook206 said: Sorry to hear of this.Prayers to all of the working family and personal family.GOD BE WITH HIM. HF IN BC CANADA WM 040496 Randy1 said: Sorry to hear , thought's and prayer's to all involved. TONY AT BMH said: Our Thoughts and Prayers. Acestowing said: Thanks for posting, never heard anything about it, Our Thoughts and Prayers from Aces Towing Bryce Weber - Aces Towing WM 091409 Level 6/7 1-519-889-3350 Scooby said: sorry to hear this john... as you know, Canada holds a special place in my heart and I hate to hear anything bad happening to my friends north of the border. Lake Eire Lenny said: Sorry To Hear Of The Loss Of A Fellow Towman Our Prayers Go Out To The Family And Co-Workers From LAKE ERIE TOWING & RECOVERY INC. Heffy004 said: Our sympathies go out also to his family, friends & co-workers. May he rest in peace. HEFFY Singh wm 060340 said: my thoughts and prayers for his family and friends........ mooresbp said: Thoughts and prayers for his family George Moore's BP We'll see you on down the road
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