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He changed finance companies a couple of years ago. Without proper representation the company he was with discontinued support for the Towing Information Network. I ask because this topic created in 2011 gives testimonial to Gerard without giving recognition to the Finance company. I have always known that towers will follow and agent more the company they are representing. Borotow wrote: Gota say thanks to Gerard again. Called him yesterday and asked his opinion on whether I should borrow money on another truck or pay it outright, as finances are close and I was hesitant to borrow more. He put it all in perspective, as he put it, keep your money, let me pay the whole cost and you can keep your working capitol and just add another payment. After some thought it made sense. I called Gerard Tuesday afternoon and said I need the money, this morning he was at MY office, I signed some papers, and an hour later he wired the money to the owner (used piece), by a little after lunch my kid pulled into the driveway with the added part of our family. Thanks Gerard, it has to be the easiest way to do business other than asking your Mom or Dad for $$$$. Its a nice piece of mind knowing somebody is willing to back you when you make a decent decision, painlessly and just as quick as going to the bank and taking out your own money. njChuck said: No DOUBT Gerard is GREAT to work with! Borotow said: Sure is Chuck, He is funny as hell to boot! Fred, I didn't get anything exciting, but due to a couple town requirements, I had to add another flatbed and didn't want to spend a ton on one because I want to get another wrecker soon (med-heavy), so that's where the next large payment will go. This transaction I acquired an International 4700 with a Jerr-Dan alum bed. Truck has a lot of miles but is pretty clean as well as very solid, and the reason I bought it was Bucks County International just put in a complete renew 7.3 4800 miles ago and a renew AT545Rmc Allision and converter 14000 miles ago. Truck also has new rad, alt, and front end. It drives like a new truck, just some stupid little stuff is bad, like turn signal cancel, radio, dash lights, other than that its a pretty solid piece. How are you doing in the South River East Bruns area nowadays? Hope all is well you guys, if your ever around my area feel free to stop by.

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I would be lining trucks up at a location and then doing a stake out. The thieves likely could not resist that may gals at one time. Problem is these can be inside jobs so they have to give a reason several trucks are being sent to one location. I think it would work within a short time, might be worth an investment in the time required. Police Departments are often to days to invest the manpower to being proactive as such. Today it is reactive in many situations and this is a society problem not an authorities problem. Be extremely careful when making such repairs, don't want anyone going boom.

17 Mar 2006 06:46 Willtow said: can anyone tell me the specs on holmes 1201 protec bed..... 408Stroker said: I believe they had the same DFT200 w/l as ours, which has a #4000 lift and #8000 tow rating. I think the boom was rated at 10 tons with some or all having 15,000 winches. Doug Fitzgerald had one, he would know all about them. On a side note, several months ago some guy had one on ebay, it was BRAND NEW, never been installed, and had been stored inside since the day it was bought. It was in pristine condition with the factory brownish-red primer and all the available Holmes accessories. The bid didn't go high enough. Kelly Neal said: Dan is right I still have one and continue to drive it today over my new trucks. I bought it back in 1986 and put it on a K3500 Chevrolet. It's still the best recovery small truck I ever own. The winches are 15,000 and with the stinger blade on the wheel lift and the truck rarely moves once it locks in place. I have 356000 miles on it and don't plan on parking it soon. Doug Fitzgerald said: I wish I had never sold mine. It was a strong wrecker. The 15000 lbs winches were awesome. The DFT-200 wheellift don't have enough reach for long overhang vehicles. The cable type control system was always giving trouble (the reason I sold the truck) I did lots of heavy winching jobs with mine . One time I winched out a 18 wheeler dump w/cab over International tractor out where the fuel tanks were scrubbing the ground backwards and the truck was grossing over 80000 lbs I set the wrecker across in a ditch and set scotch blocks and was using both winches with 1 winch double line and 1 winch triple line tied to a large tree beside my wrecker as a dead-man. Kelly Neal said: Doug I have the same problems with the cable controls aways sticking. They are also getting hard to buy, we now take them apart and repair what brakes inside. I was surprised you would have alot of problems in Texas, I'm in Minnesota and the winters are hard on them. 408Stroker said: When did you "give away" that truck Doug? What kind of shape was it in? Please step a little closer so I can smack you!! Doug Fitzgerald said: I had it listed on here for $6000.00 and no one would buy it so I had a friend that wanted it and I was needing some money bad so I sold it to him for $4000.00 He brought me $2000.00 cash to hold the truck and the very next day a man I had told about the truck called with $6000.00 ready to buy and I had to tell him it was already sold. The friend ended up bringing me another $1000.00 cash and a $1000.00 check that was account closed and I had to turn him into the sheriff dept to collect. The sheriff had my money the same day we went and filed . Had the money in my pocket before dark !!! this is a pic of the truck. and here is a maintainer that I recovered with it using a backhoe as a deadman. Here is my 1201 on the original chassis lifting a incenerator that weights 6000 lbs. Mine was a 1985 model 1201 and it did have 15000 Lbs winches the boom showed a rating of 8000 Lbs and the DFT-200 wheellift on it had a rateing of 3500 Lbs extended. Fitzgerald's Auto Service & Towing San Augustine,Texas 75972 Serving The Pineywoods Of East Texas Since 1974 Kelly Neal said: I didn't read the post close enough the boom is a 8 ton and the winches are 15,000 on the first wrap of the drum the 4th wrap comes in at 10,000. Daniel I noticed your truck has Vulcan recivers on the wheel lift. 408Stroker said: Kelly, as much as they look like it from a distance and would love them be, the the l-arms on our truck are not Vulcans. Sorry to question you Doug, I guess the real question in my mind is do all of the Protech 1201s have 15k winches? It can be easy to confuse them with the 1200 Commander which has 10k winches. Doug Fitzgerald said: Daniel, looking at the pictures of yours it must be a later model than mine was I see yours has a high side body. I don't know if they all have 15000 lbs winches or not. I do know Holmes made a 1101 just like the 1201 but with only 1 winch. I was in a Towing & Techniques class taught by Tom Lucianio and Joe Sroga in 1997 and they mentioned in the class that all small wreckers either had 8000 or 10000 lbs winches I told them that I had one that had 15000 Lbs winches and both Tom and Joe had never seen one and finally they said it might be the wrecker that Parker Industries made for Holmes. I could not believe that two of the best trainers in the towing industry did not know what a Holmes 1201 was. Mine did say Holmes on the winches. What I liked about the winches was the open dog on the freewheel you can just look and see that it is doged in all the way. This is what I like about my No-Mar 10-10's it has the narrow spool Braden winches with the open dog on the freewheel. and my No-Mar's will pull almost as good with the 10000 lbs Braden winches as the 1201 did. One thing I like better is that the Braden winches will hold 150' 7/16'' wire rope and the 1201 would only hold 100' of 7/16'' The way I work a wrecker I refuse to use 3/8'' wire rope or the little 8000 lbs winches Fitzgerald's Auto Service & Towing San Augustine,Texas 75972 Serving The Pineywoods Of East Texas Since 1974 408Stroker said: Just in case there's any confusion, ours is a 440-2. About a 90-91(truck is a '91 and was built new). The body is straight like all modern LD's. It's got 10k winches. We've been pondering that when we replace the winch lines, replacing with 7/16" Our previous(first) truck was a '80 K30 4x4 Chevy with an 1100 and the fabulous UTC-100 w/l. It's got a 10k winch. Here's how it sit's now. We removed the w/l and sling to lighten and simplify it as we plan on using for off-road recoveries. Missing Member said: Hi Towers I am mike's towing & recovery in williamsburg va. I am new to this board so if i screw up please forgive me. On the subject of a 1201 holmes bed. I bought mine from dave freeman of century towing in va. beach va.It was my first truck of my own it had 69,000 miles on it when i bought it and it now has 645.000 miles on it and i have retired the truck. It is pound for pound the strongest unit i have ever worked. Ask anyone in this area about it and they will tell you that when anything needs winching better call mike. One of the guys has a 600 holmes that i used through the 80s when i worked for someone else, he calls me all the time to assist with heavy winching. Another tower has a medium duty century and the 1201 allways pulled as hard as his. I have winched everything from cars to bulldozers with it. We have several driveways on the main drag of town that are very steep and buses and car carriers will get hung on them on a regular basis. The city police allways call me to winch them off of it. I now own a 2006 f450 xlt with a century 412 unit and there is no comparison to my old 1201. Thanks for listening and have a busy day. Mike mike's towing & recovery Williamsburg va. Doug Fitzgerald said: Hello Mike Welcome to Tow 411. You are right the 1201 was a winching machine. wish I had keep mine and fixed it up. My pair of No-Mar 10-10's has 10000 lbs Braden winches and will almost do what the 1201 did but not quite. Fitzgerald's Auto Service & Towing San Augustine,Texas 75972 Serving The Pineywoods Of East Texas Since 1974 Pheatone said: Hi guys I just bought my first truck its a 87 F350 with what im sure is a Holmes 1201 pro tec. Reading your post have really been helpful and encouraging. I just wanted to say thanks. Very encouraging words I just bought my first truck 1989 F350 with a1201 49,000mi been in a garage sitting 19 years. Thanks for the knowledge. fishertowing said: looking for manual control linkage for holmes 1200 fisher towing garrison iowa

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06-20-13: tnttowingbradenton wrote, we are up to about 5 a day hope more come. towtegrity said: You give them the lowest rates possible and then they ask you too cut them in half. When we signed up for NSD they made promises of all of these calls we were going to get...Needless to say they said the only way we would get them is if we cut our rates in half. Good luck! ESC said: Lower your rates is the only way.... until someone cheaper comes along. NSD used to send us alot of work... and had a great rep that we heard from often. Now, haven't heard a thing from them in a long time. advancedtowingofwa said: I just signed up with them so far 3 calls in a month I made my rates. I am sure I am not the cheapest. So far they seam to be easy to work with and pay fast. NationalAutow said: If you are working with rates that allow you to make a decent PROFIT, then stay there. If you lower them for volume, it will come back to haunt you. If you do not believe me, see a gazillion previous posts by others on tow411.net. They can't all be wrong! Towtegrity said: I guess we have a new NSD rep for PA and within a day of posting my response he contacted us! He seemed geuinely interested in fixing the situation and was nothing but nice! Thumbs up for NSD! NSDrep1 said: As with all and any rate issues, we aim to ensure that our top providers receive calls, Our criteria is such that we demand a high level of acceptance as with most organizations in the same field, however it is not the only means of ensuring those who accept a majority (over 90%) of calls receive our business, Competitive rates are important, we dont expect everyone to be the cheapest, we expect the BEST at a comparitive price within an area that we know the average rate price for the various available services on offer. You are a business, We are too and we are looking at ways to improve our relationships with providers like yourselves and everyone like you all over the country. We stand by our payment process as THE best around, We stand by our Regional Field Managers being available for YOU to help resolve any issues, but understand this is a two way street, we understand that there are unscrupilous providers and organizations out there, we are not one of those, You give us a competitve rate and accept 90% of our calls and we will certainly want to ensure we grow and maintain that kind of relationship, however not all providers when committing to accepting dispatch calls from us can for whatever reason maintain that required acceptance rate. Feel free to discuss any issues with myself direct at 1-800-338-2680 x 284 David Jones - Network Provider Manager - NSD ffhop said: Called yesterday left a message, pa rep emailed me in morning saying he just missed me(heard that before..), I called 4 times today in which each time went to voice mail. Really... come on, do your job please... nsdrep1 said: We are preparing to go to the Tow Show in Baltimore tomorrow, so some of the reps have been off this week i Please call me direct on 1 - 800 - 338 - 2680 x 284 I will deal with any issues you have. David Jones - Network Operation Manager - Nation Safe Drivers nsdrep1 added: Steve, As I understand it, Gary upon his return to the office called you back this morning, correct, just wanted to make sure you got a reply to your call and that we got everything sorted you had an issue with. ESC said: I have been back and forth a few times with the Pa Rep, Gary Fader. He has been great to work with. Gets back to me usually same day, last week it took him a day to reach me, but i know he was preparing for the tow show from what he told me, so i can understand. But NSD has been the BEST at being able to reach my rep. No other club comes close for us in being able to reach anyone. The down side it, the very very low amount of work from NSD. We have had 1 job from them in the past two months. Our rates are set to retail with them, so when they call, we will go... no issues. They tell us up front what the miles are calculated at, and the pay rate, so we know before we roll a truck. We have great luck with them, just wish we could get alot more work from them. nsdrep1 said: Please call me on the number above lets look at everything to discuss this issue, thanks ESC said: I got a call again from Gary this afternoon.... changed our coverage map around a bit, and gave us some info on some new clients they are working with in the near future... so i am hopeful that their client base will grow in our area and we will get to do alot more work with them. They are very easy to work with, and they actually care about getting the best service for their customer. KOENIGS said: I wish they would call or Email me back... Used to be Same Day or first thing the next. We moved to a location 80 miles away and Emailed / called every addy / number we had. 2 months and no contact back. Just unable to change our location and coverage map. KOENIGS Added: 72 SECONDS and we got a call. Thanks NSD, yall continue to be the best. KOENIGS Towing and Recovery in Savannah TN, and surrounding area. Oldtow said: I can't remember how long we have been with NSD, but we receive very few calls from them. Perhaps they just don't have that much business in our neck of the desert, but I must say, whenever their dispatcher calls they are always fairly accurate on the millage. We are not the cheapest dog in the fight for business, but we always go way out of our way to take care of their customers, as we appreciate their courteous dispatchers, and their business. I sure hope that we get more business from them in the future, thennnnnn maybe we could kiss Agero goodby Rick Cowboy For All My Life Wrecker Driver To Make A Livin Cowboy Preacher by Calling ! ffhop said: We have been working with PA rep, and managers, since last post. Sorry for frustrations if takin as such. Looking forward to continuing our relationship. Have a great holiday to everyone, from everyone at Godshall's Auto Service.