Old Tow 27 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 We have a 2000 international that the engine warning lite comes on as soon as the truck gets to about 20mph and then goes into limp mode. We have replaced just about every switch on the truck, and am waiting for a new ICP to arrive tomorrow. Any suggestions? Any and all posts helpfully. Thanks in advance.... Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kjband13oc 25 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 You are going to need codes to diagnose properly.Last one I worked on everything was replaced ecm and sensors.When I got hold of it turned out to be defective crank sensor.Changing parts without proper diagnosis wastes alot of time and money.There are numerous diesel sites that can help with proper diagnosis. 1 Quote Kevin's American Towing Service Ph: 631-654-8811 Link to post Share on other sites
GRUMPS The Towman 347 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I agree with kjband, It does sound like a bad crank sensor ( they were known for throwing crazy fits with anything but oem International sensors ) But to better help you I would need a list of trouble codes she's throwing on you Sir. Quote PROFESSIONAL TOWING & RECOVERY IS NOT JUST A JOB.. IT IS A LIFESTYLE Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Ok guys, I pulled the codes and this is what I came up with, I sure hope I did it right: 111 222 113 333 225 626 I sure hope this helps. Edited November 18, 2020 by Old Tow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kjband13oc 25 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 model and engine please Quote Kevin's American Towing Service Ph: 631-654-8811 Link to post Share on other sites
GRUMPS The Towman 347 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kjband13oc said: model and engine please Ditto. The Vin # ( at least the last 8 ) might help too. Then I can play with this new software I have on my new-to me diagnostics computer. With all the relative info I think collectively we can point you in the right direction Mr. OldTow. Quote PROFESSIONAL TOWING & RECOVERY IS NOT JUST A JOB.. IT IS A LIFESTYLE Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Kjband13oc said: model and engine please International year 2000, model 4700 Engine DT466E Does that help?? 20 minutes ago, GRUMPS The Towman said: Ditto. The Vin # ( at least the last 8 ) might help too. Then I can play with this new software I have on my new-to me diagnostics computer. With all the relative info I think collectively we can point you in the right direction Mr. OldTow. VIN # 1HTSCAAL4XH682782 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kjband13oc 25 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 111 ECM No errors detected - flash code only 222 N/A 113 ECM PWR Electrical system voltage B+ out-of-range low 333 ICP SYS Injection Control Pressure above/below desired level 225 EOP EOP sensor signal in-range fault 626 ECM/PWR Unexpected reset fault Quote Kevin's American Towing Service Ph: 631-654-8811 Link to post Share on other sites
Kjband13oc 25 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 It appears without seeing vehicle electrical power supply problem. Secondary showing possible oil pressure control problem for which you ordered sensor. Quote Kevin's American Towing Service Ph: 631-654-8811 Link to post Share on other sites
Kjband13oc 25 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Start with basics Check batt voltage ,connections and alternator output in those years there used to be a thin wire off battery that get corroded and cause all kinds of grief it went to ecm system Quote Kevin's American Towing Service Ph: 631-654-8811 Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Boyyyy what a great help y'all are. The sensor should be here today, will install it and let you know what happens. Do you have a part number for the crank sensor? Thanks so much for what y'all have done so far.... Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Ok I got the new sensor in but have not started it. Should I clear the ecm completely first and if so how do I clear any and all codes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRUMPS The Towman 347 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Majority of your codes are related to voltage issues. Start with all your battery connections and battery condition. Check them, clean them, tighten them. There is an independent wire that will run off your battery positive that feeds directly to the ecm of the truck. There may or may not be a fuse installed on it. ( I have seen them with and without ) that particular wire has been known to corrode and cause a plethora of issues including the symptoms your experiencing. Check all your obvious ground connections. Battery to chassis, cab to chassis, engine block to chassis. Again, check, clean and tighten. Those 7.3's ( dt466e ) were known to vibrate things loose over time as I am sure you know. On more than one occasion, I have found a loose chassis ground that was the culprit of months-long headaches for guys. Your Icp issue may or may not be related to the voltage issue your experiencing. Since you said you already ordered it, I would toss it on there since it isnt a big deal to do it and they were known to crap out regularly anyway. Good luck with it sir. Hopefully you get her nailed down in short order. NOTE, Just as I posted this, I noticed KJBAND13OC had also gave you a run down of basically, the same things I mentioned. Sorry kjband13oc, didnt mean to step on toes and repeat what you already said. Edited November 18, 2020 by GRUMPS The Towman apology. Quote PROFESSIONAL TOWING & RECOVERY IS NOT JUST A JOB.. IT IS A LIFESTYLE Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Ok, I will start checking all the connections this evening and tomorrow. Doesn't seem like I get as much done in one day these days at 83 as I did when I was 53 🤣 Sure wish I would have listened more to the mechanics when I used to have one on the payroll, just me and Maw now. 😳 Thanks Y'all !! Edited November 19, 2020 by Old Tow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stubborn66 47 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 The guys have you going in the right direction and make sure to check the grounds. Like Grumps said the ground can cause headaches. I start looking real close at grounds when I have multiple codes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kjband13oc 25 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Any update? Quote Kevin's American Towing Service Ph: 631-654-8811 Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Not yet had a Doctor's appointment today, hope to get on it in the morning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Ok, pulled the old sensor out but had the wrong new one, soooo back to the drawing board. Gonna look at the crank sensor next I guess. I'm beginning to think I should retitle this "Old Dude Worked On Truck, Haven't Seen Him Since" !! 😳 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRUMPS The Towman 347 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 AHAHAHAHa !!!! Too funny.. Quote PROFESSIONAL TOWING & RECOVERY IS NOT JUST A JOB.. IT IS A LIFESTYLE Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Think I have it pinned down.....maybe, it looks like crank sensor. Does anyone have a part number for the crank sensor for my truck? And if possible the right part number for the ICP sensor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stubborn66 47 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 crank shaft sensor, NAPA = NHD 40972471 Diesel Fuel Injection Control Pressure (ICP) Sensor NAPA Echlin Diesel Per Car Qty: 1 NED IPS400 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kjband13oc 25 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I dont know if you bought parts yet.Its better to buy from IH less failure rate. 1 Quote Kevin's American Towing Service Ph: 631-654-8811 Link to post Share on other sites
Old Tow 27 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Thanks y'all I really appreciate it ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRUMPS The Towman 347 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kjband13oc said: I dont know if you bought parts yet.Its better to buy from IH less failure rate. 100% agree with that statement. ESPECIALLY the crank sensor !! There is all sorts of horror stories out there of issues with non International brand sensors. The initial cost of dealer parts sucks but believe me, it pays dividends from not chasing phantom issues caused by knock-off / no-name parts. Been there, Done that and I got the t-shirt to prove it !!! LOL Edited December 1, 2020 by GRUMPS The Towman Quote PROFESSIONAL TOWING & RECOVERY IS NOT JUST A JOB.. IT IS A LIFESTYLE Link to post Share on other sites
Kjband13oc 25 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Did you ever get truck running properly? Quote Kevin's American Towing Service Ph: 631-654-8811 Link to post Share on other sites
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