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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to TowZone in Simple Reality: Operator Deaths CAN be Prevented ! !   
    Grumps, you do not know how many tow drivers I have seen stand or work in a narrow space between the vehicle and the Guardrail when the could have crossed the Guardrail and reached over... Common Sense Practices which could say anyone from death or injury. The primary thought on my my is escape plan I start that exit strategy as I arrive and step out of the truck. It's so easy that it just might make the difference, in fact I know it has, because there have been close calls. So many I can't recall them for long. If I did I likely wouldn't be effective or even do this type of work. It's truly Hazardous Duty!
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from rreschran in Simple Reality: Operator Deaths CAN be Prevented ! !   
    Very well written piece Sir. As we all know, There are numerous reasons that Operators are killed or maimed on the roadways. Can MOST of them be prevented with proper training AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS? 
     
    I really believe they can. SDMO Laws don't work. They are not the be-all end-all. Not for nothing, murder, burglary, domestic violence, drunk driving etc... are all against written law yet, they happen EVERYDAY.
     
    A big, big part of the problem in my opinion is operator complacency. And I don't mean just white line work per-say. It could be an operator who loads a vehicle on a roll back and doesn't bother to secure a catch strap or safety chain to the front of said vehicle prior to getting behind and under the rear of the vehicle to attach the tie backs. Sure, he has placed his life literally in front of that winch, the line and rigging forever without issue. Then there's that ONE time.... That one time the free spool was not completely engaged, that ONE time your rigging didn't hold, That ONE time the line broke... All it takes is that ONE TIME.
     
    Now, What I am about to say may not sit well with everyone out there but it needs to be said, Tow Operators MUST START to take responsibility for their own lives. In every aspect of the job. Your roadside movements and positioning are YOUR responsibility.
     
    You must think through your movements, know a way out of where you are should something go awry..  We cannot and should not have ever thought some written law or a bunch of flashing lights and reflective clothing is going to give us some sort of magical shield where we could just go about doing anything we wanted on the side of the road. PROTECT yourselves because no else will. 
     
    So many of these horrible deaths could have been prevented if the operator, experienced or new would not allow complacency to play a role in the uncontrollable situation they may have been put in. You have NO control over the 17 year old texting-tweeting driver or the hammered drunk guy running down the shoulder right towards your scene,  But if you are operating on the guardrail side of your truck, you have your head up and NEVER turn your back to traffic, you might just see whats coming and be able to get away via your already scoped out escape route from the imminent collision...Roadside operator deaths will always be a factor. But, i really feel if we all took more time to plan, train and prepare ourselves for the given situation we have to work in, We could drastically reduce the fatalities that plague our industry.  Just my 2 cents.     
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from PeakTowing in Simple Reality: Operator Deaths CAN be Prevented ! !   
    Very well written piece Sir. As we all know, There are numerous reasons that Operators are killed or maimed on the roadways. Can MOST of them be prevented with proper training AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS? 
     
    I really believe they can. SDMO Laws don't work. They are not the be-all end-all. Not for nothing, murder, burglary, domestic violence, drunk driving etc... are all against written law yet, they happen EVERYDAY.
     
    A big, big part of the problem in my opinion is operator complacency. And I don't mean just white line work per-say. It could be an operator who loads a vehicle on a roll back and doesn't bother to secure a catch strap or safety chain to the front of said vehicle prior to getting behind and under the rear of the vehicle to attach the tie backs. Sure, he has placed his life literally in front of that winch, the line and rigging forever without issue. Then there's that ONE time.... That one time the free spool was not completely engaged, that ONE time your rigging didn't hold, That ONE time the line broke... All it takes is that ONE TIME.
     
    Now, What I am about to say may not sit well with everyone out there but it needs to be said, Tow Operators MUST START to take responsibility for their own lives. In every aspect of the job. Your roadside movements and positioning are YOUR responsibility.
     
    You must think through your movements, know a way out of where you are should something go awry..  We cannot and should not have ever thought some written law or a bunch of flashing lights and reflective clothing is going to give us some sort of magical shield where we could just go about doing anything we wanted on the side of the road. PROTECT yourselves because no else will. 
     
    So many of these horrible deaths could have been prevented if the operator, experienced or new would not allow complacency to play a role in the uncontrollable situation they may have been put in. You have NO control over the 17 year old texting-tweeting driver or the hammered drunk guy running down the shoulder right towards your scene,  But if you are operating on the guardrail side of your truck, you have your head up and NEVER turn your back to traffic, you might just see whats coming and be able to get away via your already scoped out escape route from the imminent collision...Roadside operator deaths will always be a factor. But, i really feel if we all took more time to plan, train and prepare ourselves for the given situation we have to work in, We could drastically reduce the fatalities that plague our industry.  Just my 2 cents.     
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to rreschran in Simple Reality: Operator Deaths CAN be Prevented ! !   
    I spent considerable time going over highway related fatality data yesterday as a result of this most recent operator fatality. In a post regarding a recent tow operator's tragic death, Moose commented, “What's It Going to Take, SLOW DOWN MOVE OVER isn't working,” and 5towman wrote, “Very sad. Just no reason this keeps happening. Thoughts and prayers.” Both questions beg an industry-wide focus. Moose is right, Slow-Down Move-Over ISN’T working … we already know that. California’s SDMO law was written into the books in 2007. Other states followed suit, but consistent tow operator and first responder fatalities only re-prove and re-demonstrate that distracted driving continues to kill pedestrian workers.
     
    5towman’s observation is correct … it IS quite sad. But, I’m more inclined to argue that tow operators put themselves in harm’s way by choosing to work the white-line side. Of the 13x or so tow operators killed in highway events this year, more than three-quarters of those operator strikes reportedly were BECAUSE towers were standing/working or walking on the white-line side, or, walked into an active lane. And, that includes towers with many, many years of experience. For argument sake, what comes to your mind when news reports say;
     
    The operator was standing alongside the pickup truck when a car hit him, sending him an unknown distance The tow operator and the customer were standing next to the road on the driver’s side of the car. The operator died on the scene after he was struck while standing outside his tow truck The man’s vehicle then continued “up the bed” of the tow truck and hit the operator, “who was standing adjacent to the flat bed portion of the tow truck,” the state police report said.   
    News reports like these leave little argument to suggest towers were on the traffic side of their tow trucks or their customer’s vehicles. I’ve got hundreds of other investigative statements just like these. No, I wasn’t there and I don’t know all the details, but these statements are a good indication of what I believe the problem is.
     
    So, what’s it gonna’ take? Distracted and DUI driving are here to stay. Cellphones and GPS aren't going away. SDMO laws don’t work suggesting, towers have to take their on-scene safety as a number-one priority by NOT working the white-line side. Towers - GET-OFF THE WHITE-LINE. In another post Grumps wrote; “I’d rather take getting a citation rather than being killed by a wayward motorist.” Is that 4-point tie-down worth being killed over?    
     
    Fatality numbers don’t lie suggesting more than 350-operators have been killed on highways since 1954. And, yes, my numbers are an estimate only, but give an idea as to just how dangerous this line-of-work is. I believe towers should completely understand that working the white-line side is the path to a certain death. Instead, from the non-traffic-side, load the vehicle, secure it enough that it’s safe to move to a safer location; then complete securing the vehicle where you’re NOT exposed to dangerous traffic.
     
    White-Line safety certainly demands a culture change in operator mentality. That’s what I think it’s going to take. How we get there as an industry is nothing less than an individual effort. It seems so simple, but why doesn’t that message catch-on? How does that message sink and stick to each tower’s mind? To that, I extend a reality that says; "When tow operators work away from the traffic side, perhaps these repeated fatalities will go down."
     
    There are other associated factors that lead to tow operators being injured and killed. Some uncontrollable, other's not.  But, working the white-line can be prevented when towers take time to consider their on-scene techniques to work quickly and eliminate time on-scene. Can operator deaths be prevented (?) Not through the actions of the motoring public, but, by towers themselves choosing to work out of harm’s way and on the non-traffic side. Make it a conscious choice and live by your words.        R.
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to rreschran in A look into the trucking industry and chance to enter our weekly drawing   
    That was brutal Ron. I listened to this background noise while I worked on other writing projects.  I focused on tow industry conversation if it was relevant and relating it to a non-Covid environment. From most of this narrative, there’s a comparison from the trucking/hauling industry to that of auto club or insurance companies. When they tell you, “This is the best rate and it’s the best we’re going to give you”, are you willing to do more for less? There’s an, “Us against them”, mentality where they’re dictating what they’re willing to pay BECAUSE, there’s always someone in the background to fill in instead of you because they need to earn a living, OR, they're willing to cut all rates to get the work.
     
    I personally don’t think this podcast discussed anything different than the current status of what rates are being offered. I find it moronic to work with or do business with some fool like #ThaGuv who flippantly tells me, “Fuck Off … take it or leave it.” If that’s the attitude, I’m all for letting some other company be abused. Toward the middle of the cast, the question was raised, “How much does it cost for you to run your truck?” There was talk of cost analysis, but, there was mention that many of the respondents didn’t have an accurate dollar amount as to what their operational costs were. Accordingly, if towers don’t know what their operational costs are, how can they even think of working for less money or lower rates?
     
    My conclusion to the cast was this; "Here's the going rate we're willing to pay ... take it or leave it or we'll find someone else to do it cheaper."    The overall bulk of their conversation wasn’t anything new aside from their grabassed, non-professional presentation. I believe the towing and recovery industry has far more important issues that exist on a day-to-day basis Covid or not. I also think this industry is far more complicated than the trucking industry because of our operation and administration processes.     R
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to Njsss in Unexpectedly Exploded~ For Real   
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to Moose in Re: Reckless or Authorized ? ?   
    Considering this was likely a REPO

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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to ETOW in Sort of new, looking for some advice.   
    I would say your assessment of me seems pretty accurate. Haha I prefer to learn as many lessons as I can from someone else’s mistakes when possible. I’ve found it to be cheaper and less painful that way. 😂
     
    Like you, I’m aiming to do the exact opposite of Cletus. I’m also aware how hard starting from scratch is going to be. It’s a massive uphill battle. I have pages of notes where I’ve run through costs and rate calculations. I’m actually working on a formula that involves mileage, time, and fuel prices to determine rates. Basically you plug in shop to shop miles, shop to shop time, and local fuel prices to get a rate. It still needs some fine tuning though. The reason behind this is I can drive 65 miles in an hour on the interstate, but in the city or twisty mountain roads, I can only drive maybe 25 miles in an hour. I feel this method would ensure profitability in both scenarios and hopefully put an end to the old “charge by the mile or charge by the hour debate”, because it’s a blend of both. Still needs some tweaking, and you need to add loading/unloading time in your calculations, but I’m getting there.
     
    My goal for now is to be a one man show that provides the best service on the area. The struggle, and one I’m sure everyone faces, is going to be relaying to potential customers why I’m better than Cletus and worth the extra $$. They don’t even know what a J-hook is, let alone why it’s not the best option for their $40k car.
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from rreschran in Sort of new, looking for some advice.   
    It sounds like you already have a good professional outlook and that is key in my opinion. It is funny how a good ol' butt chewing can stick in your head sometimes. LoL. You seem to be one who looks around at whats going on around you and using what you see to improve your methods and ways. That is another key strategy for a "one man band". One of my biggest motto's is I would rather leave my truck parked in the driveway and wash it then chase calls all through town for $40. I leave that work for the clowns who want to think they are making money just because their truck is rolling. and this town has its fair share of them. The numbers have to be right. A guy can go send out one of his inexperienced drivers and do 5-6 calls running all over at $40 each, beat 175-200 miles onto his rig and cook up a tank of fuel, pay his driver for the day plus whatever else got tore up through the course of his day While I will go out 2 or 3 times for $75 each, put 50-75 on my rig and use 1/2 tank of fuel and still be home for dinner with the family. Who made out better? 
    Too many people get into this business thinking they will get rich quick only to realize that you actually have to work and do it right. Many many people start with the best intentions only to find they cant make enough money to cover all their expenses doing things right at the rates they charge so corners start to get cut, trucks get abused and grossly overloaded because they take on any and all work offered, service declines and things go from bad to worse. Next thing they know, their equipment is junk, truck payments are overdue, their employees are gone, the bank account is empty and they cant figure out why. What I am getting at is when you get started, sit down and figure out what your expenses are and always plan high. Come up with a good rate scale that will pay the bills AND put a few $$ in your pocket. Remember, you are a FOR PROFIT business. the whole point is to make yourself some money. And most of all STICK TO YOUR GUNS on your quotes. You will get those people who say "well Cletus's towing said he can do it for $$". Explain to your potential customer while you cant do the job at Cletus's rate,  you can provide professional service with modern, clean updated equipment. Speak professionally to them. Yes Sir, No Sir etc... believe me, it goes a loooong way.  Most times, you will get a call back from them wanting the service. Keep in mind, The general public views us towers as greasy, Knuckle-dragging Idiots mostly. That stigma that is upheld by unprofessional fly-by-night towers with crappy rigs and gear and a crappy adittude to go with it. I pride myself on being on the opposite side of that stigma. In my opinion, being able to talk to people in a professional matter is a big thing. At least it works for me. I also know I am not going to become a millionaire doing this. I make a decent living and thats good enough by me.
     
    As far as the Ram's I am very happy with them both. My 17 5500 just broke 96,000 miles yesterday and it had 230 miles on it when I first put it into service. I have had 3 mechanical failures with it although none of them have left me stranded. she always was able to limp home. 2 of those failures were "self inflicted". One was a trans cooler line that was improperly installed by the upfitter who installed the tow unit and it rubbed on the front driveshaft. The 2nd was a screw was accidentlly put through the wiring harness in the drivers front wheel well when my partner installed a set of oversized mud flaps for me. And the 3rd was a blown out exhaust manifold gasket at the head causing a massive whistling sound when the exhaust brake was used.
    My partners 12 3500 we bought new as a cab/chassis and I installed the chevron unit that we had from an older chevy we got when we bought the business from our former boss. That truck just surpassed 220,000 miles. Although my partner does perform some maintenance on his truck, since it has been paid off, he certainly doesnt do it to the level that I do and is more of a "wait till it breaks" kinda guy. He runs the truck hard and uses it for everything including helping around his fathers farm moving this n that, loading things etc.. She has held up real good to his abuse. 
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to EdsTowing in Alcohol, Rams & Boulders...   
    The initial call out was 145hr/2hr min. The rock was off the road so we chose to go out in the AM to finish. The second call was hourly for the machine, the rollback & the Recovery Van, all on 2 hr min. The traffic arrow board gets billed individually at a set fee. All together with the admin fee it came out around 2300 if I recall. This billed under their Property Damage coverage but the repair was covered under a collision policy.
     
    As for the "Free gratis service", honestly I would of did the same job weather it had insurance or not. I believe you have to set a precedent of doing the job completely and then work on getting paid. I want the organizations sharing the scene (police/fire) being used to see me do our "thing".... Sometimes I take it on the chin...but usually we do ok. Not saying I am Santa Clause or anything...I'm cautious with obvious POS vehicles but won't leave a mess or any "dirty laundry" for someone to judge me on.
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from rreschran in Road Service Driver & Truck Struck - 07.06.20 (IL)   
    For some reason, the picture did not come up when I first read the article and wrote my post. Now that I see the picture.... WTF was he doing out there??... From what I can see it appears he was replacing the left front steer tire so I can understand why he wouldnt be able to limp off the highway if that is in fact the case. But Why on gods green earth would you need your service truck along side the rig?? IN A LIVE LANE !!???!!! Did he feel no one would see his warning lights if he put his truck in front of the semi?? I have done left side steer tires on trucks before on the side of the road and  I would park my truck 5 or 6 car lengths ahead of the semi and have the driver cut the nose over hard a bit to the right to give me a lil breathing room. It also helps to get the warning lights on your service rig a little better display room. Of course cones, triangles and flares were added behind the rig also. I can understand his air line not reaching the front If he was to stage at the rear of the semi because mine didnt reach either. That is why I would set up the way I just mentioned. Seems as though he rolled the dice staging his truck there feeling it would provide him some protection. Certainly a very bad decision. My thoughts are with the tech for a fast recovery. I would love to hear the techs reasoning behind this choice after he recovers. 
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from EdsTowing in Re: Do You Reward Exceptional Employees ?   
    Being just my partner and I, we dont have any employees other than ourselves. But i remember back in the day at my fathers shop, He had 7 employees. ( 3 towers, 2 truck technicians, a helper/apprentence and a dispatcher/receptionist ). Everyone got yearly bonuses + raises,  good benefits, and lunch was always on dad every friday. either they all went down the street to the local italian restaraunt or pizza and wings were ordered. I remember it was always the same crew there all through my childhood. Dad always took care of his employees well. with the exception of myself and another guy my age, everyone there retired with the business after dad passed. Dad always said that your employees are the lifeblood of your business and they must come first. IF ( and it is a big IF ) I ever do expand I hope to come up with some good people who are worth treating the way dad did.  
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from rreschran in Re: Do You Reward Exceptional Employees ?   
    Being just my partner and I, we dont have any employees other than ourselves. But i remember back in the day at my fathers shop, He had 7 employees. ( 3 towers, 2 truck technicians, a helper/apprentence and a dispatcher/receptionist ). Everyone got yearly bonuses + raises,  good benefits, and lunch was always on dad every friday. either they all went down the street to the local italian restaraunt or pizza and wings were ordered. I remember it was always the same crew there all through my childhood. Dad always took care of his employees well. with the exception of myself and another guy my age, everyone there retired with the business after dad passed. Dad always said that your employees are the lifeblood of your business and they must come first. IF ( and it is a big IF ) I ever do expand I hope to come up with some good people who are worth treating the way dad did.  
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to EdsTowing in Re: Do You Reward Exceptional Employees ?   
    We are a small company but try to do our best to keep a dedicated staff. My head guy in the shop is with me 20 years this year. He has an attractive pay scale, I cover 100% of his health insurance package and he has a company personal pick up that I supply/maintain/insure. Also do the same program for my Body Shop guy.
     
    As for the "daily grind"....I regularly buy the shop breakfast or bagels in the morning. Lunches... Ice Cream or Dunkin' runs through out the week... Numerous parties through out the year & bonus's. Sometimes I'll grab all my employee's keys and fill their gas tanks up at the shop just to show how much I appreciate what they do for me. My business philosophy has always been "you're only as good as your people" and I truly believe that. I have been to some incredible facilities or seen top notch equipment that were operated by total incompetence and proved that you can't just buy professionalism, work ethics or integrity....
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to LisaJones in Tower Down - 07.01.20 (SC) "UPDATED"   
    I am so sorry for the senseless loss all of you are enduring within this brotherhood of recovery heros, the weight those that gave all they could to bring him home I can only imagine. All of you are special and amazingly compassionate people, I do not have the woods to eloquently sum up the immense appreciation I have for all you give of yourselves and all you give up to do what you do. 
    To the family,
    I pray that you feel the comfort of Gods hand on your shoulder to steady you on this rollercoaster of shock and disbelief. 
    During this time as you stumble through the days and nights of grief, I want you to know your not alone, there are woman and families who have also walked this tragic road and should you find the need to talk or just for someone to listen please reach out, you do not have to do this on your own.
    My deepest regret for your loss.
    Sincerely
    Mrs. Jones
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to LisaJones in Tower Down - 07.01.20 (SC) "UPDATED"   
    As the wife of Dale Jones, the tow truck  recovery operator that was struck and killed on 1/4/2020 in Watertown Sd, I can tell you that my heart goes out to this drivers family and friends, his community and fellow drivers, I will pray your loved one finds his way back to you. 
    Before my husband died I did not know of this amazing, supportive, and dedicated community of  what I consider to be the front line heros of america. These amazing men and woman put themselves and thier families 2nd to the needs of stranded, confused, wrecked, lost and destroyed motorists, they live with a phone connected to them at all times, they hit the floor running day or night, they are there to help as a support to all 1st responders and customers, and yet they are the ones most often then not that go unnoticed,unsupported and unmentioned.
     I  believe they are due the same respect same consideration same backup as afforded a 1st responder. I have thought long and hard about what is needed to keep all  recovery specialists and emergency personnal safe.
    In my opinion  changing the color of the lights on tow trucks is not a sufficient change to insure the law of slow down and move over, that would if adheard to save a majority of this industry's personnal and thier families the devastation of loss my family and myself have endured this year.
    I believe that in order to keep everyone safe one of two things could be implemented. 
    1. An officer should be on scene to direct traffic at every site 
    Or
    2. Each tow truck should roll with 2 operators so one could monitor or direct traffic.
    I also believe you all should be included in the same group as the police, emts, and ambulance population of 1st responders, to allow you the ability to be as promanet in the public's sight.
    I also believe any motorist that doesnt abide the move over law that takes a life should be charged with vehicular manslaughter not just sited and fined if they take a life they should be held accountable.
    I pray this family is restored whole with the return of thier loved one,
    I know what I would give to have Dale home today.
    To all you wonderful selfless and devoted heros I ask you please take every caution, use a buddy system and stay vigilant, please take the steps you need to return home to the ones you love. For the public does not take the time nor have the consideration and respect of you to keep you safe as of yet.
    May god bless you, watch over and guide you and give you strength to ensure you keep returning home.
     
    Sincerely
    Mrs Jones
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to Val in Tower Down - 07.01.20 (SC) "UPDATED"   
    They found him 😢
    https://abcnews4.com/news/local/body-found-near-don-holt-bridge
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from ESC in Anyone have luck with getting the greaseless pins out? MPL40   
    I too run a jerr dan roll back with the greaseless pins. I love the equipment but like you have had torturous, knuckle-smashing fights with getting pins out when needed. Sadly, the only way I have gotten them out is the ol "heat and beat" technique. On the ones you cant get to the backside of what I did was I welded a good sized nut to it and built a makeshift puller out of a 1/2 thick steel bar ( picture a 2 jaw puller bar ) that threads into said nut. Then of course with alot of heat and pressure turned into the puller they eventually pop. Of course the teflon bushings and pins need to replaced because they dont survive the operation. It is a shame. In therory going greaseless is a great idea but in reality it sucks to service. Good luck with it. bring your patience and a box of band-aids to the shop the day you do the job.
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to EdsTowing in Giving Back To The Community...   
    This is our 25th year in business and as we do every year, we donate a tool box to the VoTech's highest achieving Senior. This year was "sketchy" with Covid restrictions and schools being closed. We were afraid it just wasn't going to happen. But in the end, the instructor Ben was able to put it together at our shop. We couldn't get the box we typically would do because of plants shut down & whatnot but still able to pull it off.
     

     
    This young man is continuing his education at a trade college. 
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from silverhawk in What's the cost of one bad employee?   
    Unfortunatley, If his home situation is that bad that it affects his work and you have already sat down with him and spoke about it, then I would have to say it is time to part ways. As you are aware, our occupation is dangerous enough and if his head is in the clouds over serious personal issues, then it is not a matter of IF a mistake will be made, it is WHEN. And that mistake could cost someone their life. Not to mention money, equipment and business reputation. I personally know all about family issues and the toll it can take on you at work if you let it. ( my wife is physically disabled and in and out of the hospital constantly). I would be lying if I was to say It doesnt get to me while working but when it does I know it is time to take some time off and let my partner run the show. I know it can feel like a shitty thing to do to an employee who is having issues at home, but you as an owner MUST put your business first. 
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    GRUMPS The Towman reacted to Rick Bays in Light Up The Sky For Fallen Tow Operators 06.23.20   
    The Professional Towing Operators Of Santa Cruz County ‘LIT UP THE NIGHT’ in honor of the brother we lost yesterday in the Bay Area, & all those we have lost so far this year.

    Walt Barrows from Ladd’s our local FSP driver represented the driver from Atlas Tow in SFO who was killed yesterday. Thanks to all who came & WFD!

    We hope all that saw this tonight will
    ‘SLOW DOWN & MOVE OVER’ to save a 1st. Responder’s Life!
     

     
     
     

     

     

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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from rreschran in Flatdeck Tie Downs   
    I actually just noticed after reading Mr. Resch's post that the truck pictured is not a roll back. By no means did I mean to come across like "newbies" shouldnt ask questions. ASK away, thats how we all learn. I also just assume that anyone posting on these forums are in our industry be it a newbie or experienced just because of the nature of the forums. I have to remind myself that may not always be the case. 
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    GRUMPS The Towman got a reaction from EdsTowing in Impound   
    I wouldnt charge the same storage rate as say a toyota corolla which would be $50 a day. Here It would be considered a M/D tow and storage situation so it would be $125 a day for the truck and trailer. Unless your handling and storing each individual vehicle then you cant charge per vehicle. They are on a trailer so they are only taking up the room of said trailer. All the rates I just mentioned are regulated by my county/town This being a police impound if it was here those are the rates I would be allowed to charge.
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